Football Free Agent Quarterbacks 2012 - Page 6

O.city · 08:11 PM

This was brought up in the other thread.

There are going to be some enticing free agent qbs this offseason. There is a possibilty all those teams ahead of us who need a qb, will sign one of the free agents.

Who are the free agents this offseason and what teams are looking for a quarterback?

Since some are mistaking this as " I want the Chiefs to get one of these guys" I'll add this.

I am looking to see which FA's could go to teams ahead of us in the draft allowing RGIII or LUck to fall to us.

CoMoChief · 01-16-2012, 10:59 AM

Gotta resign Orton. you keep Cassel and let them battle it out for the starting job (ultimately you give the nod to Orton, but at least it'd give Cassel something to work his ass for). You keep both QB's so that we're not put in a position like we were last season where we're starting a Palko or even Stanzi. I know a lot of people wanted to see him get some snaps, myself included, but look at what was left in the cupboard....Palko. Almost anyone would be better than Palko, so that's not saying much. Cassel is an expensive backup, but we can't do anything about the way Pioli handled that mess and awarded him a contract he didn't deserve. Just have to accept that fact. Besides, we have the money to pay both Orton and keep Cassel, and while MC is an expensive backup, and wouldn't normally have that much money invested in 2 players at that position, there's nothing wrong (in fact it's smart) with having a good solid insurance policy, which Cassel makes a fine backup IMO.

Why sign Orton and keep Cassel? If anything else it's because there isn't a better alternative out there.

The FA list is a VERY sad list of bums. Best one on that list is Orton, and Matt Flynn is just a stupid choice on all levels. Don't want to go down that "Cassel" road again where one QB plays well for a team for a handfull of games, then we sign him in the offseason and give him a contract he doesn't deserve. FA is a no go unless we resign Orton.

Peyton Manning. There are 2 major things w/ Manning. First, obviously his health. Is he going to be able to come back to his former self and for how long. He'll be 36 by the time we have next season's draft. Neck/Back/Spinal injuries are very serious. Will he retire after playing one season, 2? A health Manning IMO would give 2-3 more years of prime service, depending on the Oline he's behind, and yes more than likely the Chiefs would instantly become SB contenders for that short time period. But another thing is that there is just no way the Colts let him go without getting a shit ton in return. Would we have to give up Bowe? 2 first rd picks plus another first day pick (or more)??? Is that worth getting a SB when it could effect the team's future? I dunno, this franchise hasn't won shit in a awfully long time so that temptation is definitely there, but I think we can get to a SB without him, and without giving up the farm in the process. Personally I don't think it's worth it. What happens if he has neck troubles and decides to take his money and walk away and retire? That would be a shitty situation for the Chiefs.

This team isn't in the position to where it can just give up draft picks and go for the homerun so to speak. We're in fantastic shape with players 1-30, after that it's ****ing terrible, a major dropoff in talent on this roster. We saw that this past season when this team was plagued with injuries. This team desperately needs depth. It's that simple.

Drafting a QB in the first rd. Face it, there are 2 QB's that are worthy of drafting high in the first rd. Luck and RG3. After that the talent drops off dramatically. Say no to Barkley, Moore, Foles, Cousins, in the first rd. Personally (even though it's against the status quo)....I'd draft RB Trent Richardson, I know you can pluck RB off of trees, but he's a spectacular player and our running game was shit last season once Charles was out w/ his knee inj, and who knows if he's going to return to his former self. He's a small shifty back that requires a lot of cutting and exploding into that 2nd gear. Can his knee handle that? Richardson gives a fine backup option to Charles. Keep Battle for ST and McClain just needs to be on the field more. He's a fine player, but just didn't see the field all that much.

FA and Rds 2-7 go after OT, Interior OL, NT, S, ILB,

lcarus · 01-16-2012, 11:02 AM

Matt Flynn will be a good QB for someone and I'm gonna laugh when we're stuck with Cassel still. I liked him before the game he had against the Lions.

Setsuna · 01-16-2012, 11:13 AM

Where is the a free agents of 2012 thread where it lists all impact free agents at every position for us to discuss on? For instance, Safety Dashon Goldson (SF), is a free agent.

Chris Meck · 01-16-2012, 11:20 AM

I'm not sure how I feel about Flynn. I do think it's completely a false comparison to say that Flynn=Cassel.

Just because he's a FA backup that sits behind a superstar doesn't equate them. They're different people, with different skillsets.

You don't know what you're going to get with Flynn, anymore than any of the rookies you might draft-except that he has played a little in actual NFL games and played well. It's an awfully small sample size, though.

R8RFAN · 01-16-2012, 02:22 PM

Oregon QB Darren Thomas declares for the NFL Draft.......

Setsuna · 01-16-2012, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by R8ers

Oregon QB Darren Thomas declares for the NFL Draft.......

Pat White/Brad Smith clone.

Deberg_1990 · 01-16-2012, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

I'm not sure how I feel about Flynn. I do think it's completely a false comparison to say that Flynn=Cassel.

Just because he's a FA backup that sits behind a superstar doesn't equate them. They're different people, with different skillsets.

You don't know what you're going to get with Flynn, anymore than any of the rookies you might draft-except that he has played a little in actual NFL games and played well. It's an awfully small sample size, though.

Smaller even than Cassel had before KC.
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whoman69 · 01-16-2012, 03:37 PM

I want no part of Matt Cassel and 2012 Chiefs going together. I'd rather put him on the trade block and see what we can get. I don't think its out of the realm of possibility for the Browns to be satisfied that Cassel gives McCoy some competition at QB or as a failsafe. I'd much rather re-sign Orton and see what we can get in the draft. I don't see Orton wanting to sign if Cassel is still here. Like many here, I wouldn't trust that Cassel is handed the job.

**lewdog** · 01-16-2012, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by R8ers

Oregon QB Darren Thomas declares for the NFL Draft.......

01-15-2012, 06:17 PM
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-555936	Free Agent Quarterbacks 2012 This was brought up in the other thread. There are going to be some enticing free agent qbs this offseason. There is a possibilty all those teams ahead of us who need a qb, will sign one of the free agents. Who are the free agents this offseason and what teams are looking for a quarterback? Since some are mistaking this as " I want the Chiefs to get one of these guys" I'll add this. I am looking to see which FA's could go to teams ahead of us in the draft allowing RGIII or LUck to fall to us. Last edited by O.city; 01-15-2012 at 08:11 PM..
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01-16-2012, 10:59 AM	#76
CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $7692254	Gotta resign Orton. you keep Cassel and let them battle it out for the starting job (ultimately you give the nod to Orton, but at least it'd give Cassel something to work his ass for). You keep both QB's so that we're not put in a position like we were last season where we're starting a Palko or even Stanzi. I know a lot of people wanted to see him get some snaps, myself included, but look at what was left in the cupboard....Palko. Almost anyone would be better than Palko, so that's not saying much. Cassel is an expensive backup, but we can't do anything about the way Pioli handled that mess and awarded him a contract he didn't deserve. Just have to accept that fact. Besides, we have the money to pay both Orton and keep Cassel, and while MC is an expensive backup, and wouldn't normally have that much money invested in 2 players at that position, there's nothing wrong (in fact it's smart) with having a good solid insurance policy, which Cassel makes a fine backup IMO. Why sign Orton and keep Cassel? If anything else it's because there isn't a better alternative out there. The FA list is a VERY sad list of bums. Best one on that list is Orton, and Matt Flynn is just a stupid choice on all levels. Don't want to go down that "Cassel" road again where one QB plays well for a team for a handfull of games, then we sign him in the offseason and give him a contract he doesn't deserve. FA is a no go unless we resign Orton. Peyton Manning. There are 2 major things w/ Manning. First, obviously his health. Is he going to be able to come back to his former self and for how long. He'll be 36 by the time we have next season's draft. Neck/Back/Spinal injuries are very serious. Will he retire after playing one season, 2? A health Manning IMO would give 2-3 more years of prime service, depending on the Oline he's behind, and yes more than likely the Chiefs would instantly become SB contenders for that short time period. But another thing is that there is just no way the Colts let him go without getting a shit ton in return. Would we have to give up Bowe? 2 first rd picks plus another first day pick (or more)??? Is that worth getting a SB when it could effect the team's future? I dunno, this franchise hasn't won shit in a awfully long time so that temptation is definitely there, but I think we can get to a SB without him, and without giving up the farm in the process. Personally I don't think it's worth it. What happens if he has neck troubles and decides to take his money and walk away and retire? That would be a shitty situation for the Chiefs. This team isn't in the position to where it can just give up draft picks and go for the homerun so to speak. We're in fantastic shape with players 1-30, after that it's ****ing terrible, a major dropoff in talent on this roster. We saw that this past season when this team was plagued with injuries. This team desperately needs depth. It's that simple. Drafting a QB in the first rd. Face it, there are 2 QB's that are worthy of drafting high in the first rd. Luck and RG3. After that the talent drops off dramatically. Say no to Barkley, Moore, Foles, Cousins, in the first rd. Personally (even though it's against the status quo)....I'd draft RB Trent Richardson, I know you can pluck RB off of trees, but he's a spectacular player and our running game was shit last season once Charles was out w/ his knee inj, and who knows if he's going to return to his former self. He's a small shifty back that requires a lot of cutting and exploding into that 2nd gear. Can his knee handle that? Richardson gives a fine backup option to Charles. Keep Battle for ST and McClain just needs to be on the field more. He's a fine player, but just didn't see the field all that much. FA and Rds 2-7 go after OT, Interior OL, NT, S, ILB,
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01-16-2012, 11:02 AM	#77
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Chris Meck MVP Join Date: May 2001 Location: midtown KC Casino cash: $-1175090	I'm not sure how I feel about Flynn. I do think it's completely a false comparison to say that Flynn=Cassel. Just because he's a FA backup that sits behind a superstar doesn't equate them. They're different people, with different skillsets. You don't know what you're going to get with Flynn, anymore than any of the rookies you might draft-except that he has played a little in actual NFL games and played well. It's an awfully small sample size, though.
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