Arrowhead anxiety: Turnover off the field causes concern

[Dr. Gigglepants]

Secrecy, intimidation, fear and a watchful eye have become hallmarks of working for the Chiefs, say some current and former employees.

BY KENT BABB THE KANSAS CITY STAR

Todd Haley walked into the public relations office at Chiefs headquarters on a Thursday in early December. Four days before he was fired as the team’s coach, he wanted to talk about what life was like inside this organization. But he didn’t know who else might be listening.

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http://www.kansascity.com/2012/01/14...nover-off.html

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This article goes into a lot of detail on the changes that came into effect with the Pioli regime. Sounds like a shitty ass place to work now.

[The Bad Guy]

So yeah, about those people that were saying this stuff is normal and all of the chicken littles were overreacting...

LOL at the Chiefs for demanding the names of sources. They are just a bully.

I hope Arrowhead is half full the whole year. Clark can shove it.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by O.city

This was basically a no win situation for the Chiefs. Yeah they went to far with it but the options were


Keep things the same, stagnant as they were and hope something good came out of it.

Or.

Drastically change the environment.

I think there are probably some butthurt employees with an ax to grind and people on CP who are rightfully angry with the results being put on the field, see that as a way to unleash hatred.

Truth of the matter is, personnel wise, Pioli has done a pretty solid job, save for the quarterback. Now business wise, seems to be a different story.

I don't know why on CP it has to be black or white. Was there probably some ax grinding going on from people who were complacent and got their shit chewed, probably. Did the front office go overboard with some stuff, probably.

I don't think it was exactly one or the other. I also think this could be a good thing, in that it could shed light on some things that need changed.

Anyway sorry for the rant.

There are some things in the article that encourage you to react, and interestingly, the neutralists and the pro-Pioli people haven't. The only people that seem to care, for example, about the gum wrapper thing are the people who really hate Pioli. I personally think stuff like that and the cost of coffee are a good thing. Anybody who's worked in a business knows that simple things like conserving printer paper and cutting down on unnecessary office supplies go a very long way in saving the company money.

The problem is that when we say the front office is going overboard, the accusations go beyond things I haven't seen in the business world. And if there's any truth to the fact that this is becoming a toxic environment, not only to bad workers, but to good workers too, then this is a problem with much further-reaching implications. The most popular engagement tool in the business world is the 12 Questions offered by Nielsen. Because these are questions that are universally true, whether you have a pressure cooker company or a laid back conservative one. The question that tends to be one of the most important is: do you have a best friend at work (need to know someone has your back). Many would argue that there's also a question of "I see the strategic value in the work that I do." I would imagine that workers hate but understand why they have to cut down on coffee. I doubt anyone would understand why there is protocol about calling Pioli by his first name.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

What's so disgusting? What's a disgrace in your opinion?

You don't think it's a joke that the team is demanding the Star turn over the names of the sources?

If you have nothing to hide, and are operating the correct way, why are the Chiefs so nervous?

[ChiefsCountry]

The trouble is Pioli is messing his head on the side of the business that the Chiefs actually were excellent at. The buisness side of the Chiefs was a top notch NFL organization, it was the player personal were the cluster **** was. Running a CIA type operation isn't going to win games on Sunday.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

exactly.

And after reading the article again, yeah, they probably did go overboard with some stuff. That usually happens when you're trying to force change.

I feel the same way.


There was a new boss, tough things had to be done.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

The trouble is Pioli is messing his head on the side of the business that the Chiefs actually were excellent at. The buisness side of the Chiefs was a top notch NFL organization, it was the player personal were the cluster **** was. Running a CIA type operation isn't going to win games on Sunday.

definitely agree with this

and if the Chiefs don't win all this stuff is going to implode into a giant fiery ball of shit. Just like Rex Ryan ... Just like Haley

Pioli may succeed, may fail ... doesn't change the fact that all this he said, she said speculation is just rumor mongering that is getting eatan up by the people who ALREADY DIDN'T LIKE PIOLI.

This is just PR fodder

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

getnickwrightnick wright

Do you guys not remember when @si_jimtrotter was on the show, talking about the paranoia at Arrowhead surrounding phone calls?

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Also, if you think only accusers in @kentbabb story are "disgruntled former employees" you need to raise your reading comprehension level.

[dallaschiefsfan]

Originally Posted by O.city

This was basically a no win situation for the Chiefs. Yeah they went to far with it but the options were


Keep things the same, stagnant as they were and hope something good came out of it.

Or.

Drastically change the environment.

I think there are probably some butthurt employees with an ax to grind and people on CP who are rightfully angry with the results being put on the field, see that as a way to unleash hatred.

Truth of the matter is, personnel wise, Pioli has done a pretty solid job, save for the quarterback. Now business wise, seems to be a different story.

I don't know why on CP it has to be black or white. Was there probably some ax grinding going on from people who were complacent and got their shit chewed, probably. Did the front office go overboard with some stuff, probably.

I don't think it was exactly one or the other. I also think this could be a good thing, in that it could shed light on some things that need changed.

Anyway sorry for the rant.

I'm on board with the bolded above...except for the personnel side where Scott didn't give us depth. QB AND depth are an issue.

[O.city]

So what about the workers who say its not toxic?

Or the one who says it was the same reaction when Peterson took over?

When they say that they were coached and or are lying, but when employees who were fired say it they don't have somewhat of an axe to grind?

There were employees fired from a franchise that hasn't won a playoff game in 20 years and a SB in 40 years. You think Stephanie Melton knows alot about putting a SB winning team on the field?

[Dave Lane]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

The trouble is Pioli is messing his head on the side of the business that the Chiefs actually were excellent at. The buisness side of the Chiefs was a top notch NFL organization, it was the player personal were the cluster **** was. Running a CIA type operation isn't going to win games on Sunday.

Exactly. Get Pioli's dumb ass out of the business side and have him spend that time on the football side. Dude is dumb as a mud fence on business management and how to get the most out of your employees.

Bring back Carl to run the business side and let Pioli run the football side and you might have a winning combo.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

MikeSilverMichael Silver

@getnickwright @kentbabb "We vill defend ze secret police at all costs"

[Dave Lane]

Originally Posted by O.city

So what about the workers who say its not toxic?

Or the one who says it was the same reaction when Peterson took over?

When they say that they were coached and or are lying, but when employees who were fired say it they don't have somewhat of an axe to grind?

There were employees fired from a franchise that hasn't won a playoff game in 20 years and a SB in 40 years. You think Stephanie Melton knows alot about putting a SB winning team on the field?

You mean the 2 that didn't have a Chiefs PR person sitting next to them at the interview?

Wow they found 2 people they could trust to not spill any beans. Awesome.

[dallaschiefsfan]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

The trouble is Pioli is messing his head on the side of the business that the Chiefs actually were excellent at. The buisness side of the Chiefs was a top notch NFL organization, it was the player personal were the cluster **** was. Running a CIA type operation isn't going to win games on Sunday.

Yup.

I'm still at a loss as to why Pioli is doing anything on the business side. Clark seemed to make a huge deal about dividing Carl's former job title between two people. It seems like that was either all talk, or Pioli was given carte blanche to step over the boundaries as he saw fit.

[tk13]

Maybe it was Jim Trotter and not an ESPN guy I was thinking of. But I knew someone national besides Harlan had floating this stuff out there.

Although that said, it could just be one of those things where Haley simply drove himself crazy. He knew they had done it to other people, so he starts to fear it's being done to him.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by Dave Lane

The entire article. Anyone that operates a business like that has no business being in business. Get Pioli out of the business side. He's a fool that has no idea how to run a business.

Like what? What in particular is so disgusting? There are a number of things in that article that aren't a big deal at all, like the Candy wrapper thing.

I don't think i've had a boss that HASN't done something like that. You're acting like the whole thing is so terrible.

I've been in a work place with drastic change JUST like this (of course w/o the phone tapping thing, if that's true) and heard practically half the staff bitch and complain and threaten to quit.

Which is why i'm not ready to crucify Hunt/Pioli until ALL of the facts come out.