Arrowhead anxiety: Turnover off the field causes concern

[Dr. Gigglepants]

Secrecy, intimidation, fear and a watchful eye have become hallmarks of working for the Chiefs, say some current and former employees.

BY KENT BABB THE KANSAS CITY STAR

Todd Haley walked into the public relations office at Chiefs headquarters on a Thursday in early December. Four days before he was fired as the team’s coach, he wanted to talk about what life was like inside this organization. But he didn’t know who else might be listening.

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http://www.kansascity.com/2012/01/14...nover-off.html

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This article goes into a lot of detail on the changes that came into effect with the Pioli regime. Sounds like a shitty ass place to work now.

[KCrockaholic]

Nick Wright with the 1 up on the story again over KK.

[Discuss Thrower]

How KK has a job is beyond me. Hell I could be better than that hack and I really only grasp 50% of what's going on in reality.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

How KK has a job is beyond me. Hell I could be better than that hack and I really only grasp 50% of what's going on in reality.

He's part owner.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Basically Pioli shouldn't be worried about alot of this crap, instead focus his energy on the football team and that Pioli is basically a scared inscure person.

This sums up my feelings almost EXACTLY.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by FAX

I fear you are overstating things a tad, Mr. chiefzilla1501.

You should experience security at the Intel campus. They make you feel like they think you stole money from your grandmother's wallet.

Some companies feel that an extremely high level of secrecy is paramount to maintaining a competitive advantage and the Chiefs don't want anyone to learn about our proprietary Thomas Jones Two Yard Play.

FAX

I'm not a fan of lockdown procedures, drawing the shades down, or confiscating pictures taken on a cell phone. I think it's a bit much, but there's a strategic reason for doing that. So I'm not going to get too hung up about that.

To some extent, the front office has to prove that they're serious about enforcing those rules. The problem is, it looks like they're micromanaging to the extent that they're grilling people for minutiae that doesn't seem to contribute to any real competitive advantage. And some of the monitoring procedures are beyond anything I've seen or heard of before. I have plenty of friends who work for top secret projects and organizations. The general consensus is that these organizations are super careful, pound it into your brain to be careful, and make it clear that there are severe consequences for divulging information. But they ultimately treat you like adults and trust that you'll be smart. Many of us operate in a corporate environment where our communications are being monitored and we're flagged even if there's a slight hint of inpropriety. What's worrisome is that it sure seems like they're being monitored for the wrong reasons, and that the Chiefs are using that information to use them against the employee.

Somebody tell me if they've seen an organization operate like this.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I'm not a fan of lockdown procedures, drawing the shades down, or confiscating pictures taken on a cell phone. I think it's a bit much, but there's a strategic reason for doing that. So I'm not going to get too hung up about that.

To some extent, the front office has to prove that they're serious about enforcing those rules. The problem is, it looks like they're micromanaging to the extent that they're grilling people for minutiae that doesn't seem to contribute to any real competitive advantage. And some of the monitoring procedures are beyond anything I've seen or heard of before. I have plenty of friends who work for top secret projects and organizations. The general consensus is that these organizations are super careful, pound it into your brain to be careful, and make it clear that there are severe consequences for divulging information. But they ultimately treat you like adults and trust that you'll be smart. Many of us operate in a corporate environment where our communications are being monitored and we're flagged even if there's a slight hint of inpropriety. What's worrisome is that it sure seems like they're being monitored for the wrong reasons, and that the Chiefs are using that information to use them against the employee.

Somebody tell me if they've seen an organization operate like this.

Myanmar doesn't exactly have good internet capability..

[Messier]

Pioli and Hunt need to be lead out of arrowhead in handcuffs if true. Haley needs to state this publicly.

[O.city]

I will give people here on cp credit, they want the Chiefs to win. I think that's the reason this so bothersome.

So KK is awful because he questions this report and doesn't automatically jump all over pioli and hunt. Don't get me wrong he is a dumbass on most things, but I dunno about this.

We all wanted change. Now it has happened and we are pissed. I think they have gone too far with some things, but they have also taken a2 and 14 team and contended for the playoffs two years in a row with absolute shit at qb.

That's my gripe. Matt cassel. And I don't like pioli messing with the business side of things but basically cassel.

IMO the Chiefs are pretty similiar to a team playing for the AFC championship.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by O.city

I will give people here on cp credit, they want the Chiefs to win. I think that's the reason this so bothersome.

So KK is awful because he questions this report and doesn't automatically jump all over pioli and hunt. Don't get me wrong he is a dumbass on most things, but I dunno about this.

We all wanted change. Now it has happened and we are pissed. I think they have gone too far with some things, but they have also taken a2 and 14 team and contended for the playoffs two years in a row with absolute shit at qb.

That's my gripe. Matt cassel. And I don't like pioli messing with the business side of things but basically cassel.

IMO the Chiefs are pretty similiar to a team playing for the AFC championship.

No one wanted change for change's sake. We wanted change that would lead to better overall management of the franchise.

This hasn't happened, and this is why we're pissed.

His three most important decisions when he arrived (QB, HC, #3 overall pick) were mismanaged, and the first two set this franchise back.

[chiefzilla1501]

By the way... I tend to agree that you have to veer to one extreme, prove you're serious, and commit to that. So I get a lot of what they're doing. Haley's workout program in the first year was extreme, but he was consistent and the players knew every year that he was serious about it. Herm's commitment to youth... same way. It pissed off a lot of veterans, but it was worth it because he committed to it.

What I'm sensing here is that Pioli is doing the same in KC. He believes that this culture is necessary, and to move it toward the middle, he has to be extreme about how he enforces it. What remains to be seen is on a lot of fronts is if Pioli can make adjustments. On too many fronts, I don't see that. I see a relentless commitment to make this team a living, breathing replica of the Patriots.

The question is how he adjusts to this. He has some big opportunities this offseason to show he's willing to adjust. Will he hire an OC outside of the tree? Will he cut the cord with Cassel? And from this story, he can't act like he's above the media--he needs to come out, make a statement, and answer these questions. And it would be nice to hear that the Chiefs organization takes these concerns very seriously and isn't brushing them off as a bunch of disgruntled employees talking shit about their organization. The ball is in his court. I don't get hung up on mistakes, if the right adjustments are made after the mistake is made.

[O.city]

Oh I fully agree Deez.

However he haschanged one of those decisions and one has turned out to be not so bad.

He has a chance to change the final one this offseason.

In my opinion, outside of the qb position pioli has done a good job with the roster. You could argue depth, but when you lose two all pros there isn't a lot of depth that would have filled that.

For me, this is a make or break offseason for this franchise.I think this is why I'm more for trading up to get a qb, in that what it would say to the league and to the fans

[O.city]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

By the way... I tend to agree that you have to veer to one extreme, prove you're serious, and commit to that. So I get a lot of what they're doing. Haley's workout program in the first year was extreme, but he was consistent and the players knew every year that he was serious about it. Herm's commitment to youth... same way. It pissed off a lot of veterans, but it was worth it because he committed to it.

What I'm sensing here is that Pioli is doing the same in KC. He believes that this culture is necessary, and to move it toward the middle, he has to be extreme about how he enforces it. What remains to be seen is on a lot of fronts is if Pioli can make adjustments. On too many fronts, I don't see that. I see a relentless commitment to make this team a living, breathing replica of the Patriots.

The question is how he adjusts to this. He has some big opportunities this offseason to show he's willing to adjust. Will he hire an OC outside of the tree? Will he cut the cord with Cassel? And from this story, he can't act like he's above the media--he needs to come out, make a statement, and answer these questions. And it would be nice to hear that the Chiefs organization takes these concerns very seriously and isn't brushing them off as a bunch of disgruntled employees talking shit about their organization. The ball is in his court. I don't get hung up on mistakes, if the right adjustments are made after the mistake is made.

Great post zilla. I fully agree

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by O.city

We all wanted change. Now it has happened and we are pissed.

We wanted change on what happens on the field. Now what goes on in office building. Pioli needs to worry about that and let Hunt & Donovan take care of that side of the business. Pioli is letting petty stuff that he makes into a big deal because he wants all the glory because he is so inscure of himself. He wants the whole world to think it was him and not Brady/Bellichick was the reason for the Super Bowls in New England.

[gblowfish]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

How KK has a job is beyond me. Hell I could be better than that hack and I really only grasp 50% of what's going on in reality.

WHB is in bed with the Chiefs. They carry the Mitch Holthus show, and have the Chiefs Post Game Show. The play by play is still on KCFX 101 FM. But WHB has special access to the Chiefs because they're in business together.

I'm sure 610 would like to be in with the Chiefs. They showed their true colors on the Frank White firing thing. They're in bed with the Royals. So when White got fired and Nick Wright interviewed him, Wright was not allowed to post that interview as a podcast.

So neither station is squeaky clean. They're both whores with different pimps.

[Reerun_KC]

Glad Pioli is watching that coffee budget.