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Old 01-16-2012, 02:19 PM  
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Elway lost it: God's anointed NFL disciple has earned starting status in 2012

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God's anointed NFL disciple has earned starting status in 2012

By ARNIE STAPLETON, AP Pro Football Writer 57 minutes ago

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. (AP)—Tim God's anointed NFL disciple will enter training camp as the Denver Broncos’ starting quarterback for 2012.

The team sought to curb the circus that’s sure to surround God's anointed NFL disciple this offseason by declaring him the incumbent at a season-ending news conference Monday.

John Elway, a Hall of Famer who rejoined the team a year ago as chief of football operations, has pledged to work with God's anointed NFL disciple this offseason to polish his passing game.

God's anointed NFL disciple took over a 1-4 team in October and guided the Broncos to their first playoff berth since 2005. His 80-yard TD toss on the first play of overtime beat Pittsburgh in the wild-card round before the Broncos lost at New England Saturday.

God's anointed NFL disciple is the Broncos’ only quarterback under contract for 2012.
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Old 01-17-2012, 04:58 PM   #106
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He will be crushed if he keeps relying on that run
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Old 01-17-2012, 04:58 PM   #107
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He just did. It's a done deal. There are aspects to his game that need work as I pointed out.
Like throwing the football
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Old 01-17-2012, 05:43 PM   #108
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On a side note, one that has nothing to do with whether he'll ever be a good QB or not... he's a damn good guy.

I watched a piece about him on the news the day before the pats game, after every game, instead of going off to the club, or to his boat, or just home to his family... Tebow spends the evening with a special needs or terminally ill kid & his family, and not just a few minutes saying hey, but hours.

If thats not worthy of adulation & respect, then nothing is... thats why all of the hatred is funny, the guy walks the walk.

I respect that.
I'm with ya on this. He is a damn good guy.
However, I think he will always be a better person than NFL QB.
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Old 01-17-2012, 05:46 PM   #109
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You can't teach a slow throwing QB how to speed up his wind up and velocity

The guy misses so many passes because the defense has a week to react to his motion and ball speed
Absolutely this can be taught. Absolutely. Its does require a serious committment. But it can be done.
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Old 01-17-2012, 05:57 PM   #110
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Old 01-17-2012, 06:19 PM   #111
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Absolutely this can be taught. Absolutely. Its does require a serious committment. But it can be done.
I call bullshit, that would be like teaching someone to run faster or jump higher
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Old 01-17-2012, 06:23 PM   #112
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.. great episode.

well played.
Weren't they all? The Mr. F stuff was a little odd.
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Old 01-17-2012, 06:47 PM   #113
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Elway is in a bad situation. The players on the team love Tebow. The fans love him. He can't get rid of him.
Its completely delectable.
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Old 01-17-2012, 06:50 PM   #114
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You can't teach a slow throwing QB how to speed up his wind up and velocity

The guy misses so many passes because the defense has a week to react to his motion and ball speed
And they are wildly inaccurate. Somewhere Jamarcus Russel is sitting on his white ermine sofa wiping jelly donut squeezings and laughing about Timmay's accuracy.
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Elway isn't in a bad situation at all. TT has a very cap friendly contract... he's showing signs that he can be a more than capable (top 15) QB in this league. The guy has a year's worth of starts under his belt and if they can add a pass catching RB and solid TE to this offense, they have lots of potential.

I'm willing to watch what happens as they add to the team, go through a training camp with TT as the starter and working with the first team and the coaches throughout the offseason and preseason.

The players appear to love TT, the fans love TT... the guy helped them go 7-4 down the stretch and 1-1 during the playoffs.

If he turns out to be exactly what many say... they can go another direction. The fans fell in love with him for many reasons, the most immediate being he sparked the winning streak. If it goes south on them and they do the things to make the offense better, but they continue to lose because TT isn't the answer.... they can walk. It's not like they have $5M+ per year on him - he's very cap friendly.

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_15667056

A couple of the incentives will be hit, but not most of them... but, if he did - then that means it worked out.

So, why not give it shot and see what happens?

Again ... name 3 veteran QBs that are going to be available that are 'no brainer' better answers for them going into 2012?

Seriously... name 3.
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Old 01-17-2012, 07:48 PM   #116
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Thats what is so great about this situation. So many things add up to letting Tebow get the controls. I don't want there to be a reason to replace him. He is exactly where I want him to be.

Whether the Chiefs can beat DEN with their current QB situation isn't a real fear for me because they aren't winning it all with them anyway. If they actually find a real QB then I am even less worried about Tebow. Not saying Chiefs go 20-0 against him or anything, but I will take my chances with Tebow and Palmer. A few months ago it looked like Elway would pull the trigger on Luck. That situation is now Tebow next year. I will take it.
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Old 01-17-2012, 07:57 PM   #117
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It amazes me how delususional Bronco fans have become with this clown. Averages 9 completions and completes mid 40 percent. "HE CAN LEARN TO BE PRO QB!!!"
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Old 01-17-2012, 08:00 PM   #118
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Assuming he sticks with his word, we shouldn't have to worry about Elway trading in front of us to snag a QBotf in the draft. Then again, I never trust a talking horse.
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Old 01-17-2012, 08:01 PM   #119
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Possibly, but you can't lay 8-8 on TT ... you can put 7-4 on him since that was the team's record once he became the starter.

Look, this team wasn't expected to do much when Orton was the starter. They over-achieved that expectation by starting off 1-4.

Yes - TT has his issues as a starting QB, but the team rallied.
Yes - the Chiefs, Raiders and Chargers did their best to out-choke each other in their pursuit of not winning the division.
Yes - Denver ended the season on a 3 game skid and won the division at 8-8.

The bottom line is that while TT was starting, they were 8-5 this season... and no, it wasn't pretty and often it was downright brutal. But, there's potential there.

I think people are kidding themselves when they say "had they started a better QB, the team would have done more."

Guess what... they did start a QB for 5 games (that many will say is better) and that you guys started to enjoy in your final few games. And, Denver went 1-4 with him and Lloyd in the offense.

All I'm saying is they did well considering the start and challenges they had on offense this season. We'll see how TT evolves prior to next season and we'll find out quickly what the team plans to do to build around him on offense.

But, you can't lay 8-8 at the feet of TT... you can put 8-5 at his feet though.

And, regarding your comment of "go find a different QB". Name 3 FAs that are hands down better for them that are available in FA. This will be fun, I know 2 names that most of you will throw out there... and no, they don't fit the description of "hands down better".
It's really great that he won all those games when the pressure was so high. Essentially, his career was in the balance. I highly doubt Elway pencils him in as the starter next year if he doesn't take his team to the playoffs.

I'm willing to give Tebow ONE quality win. A win where the game was ALL him, and that if they started Orton or Quinn, it would be a loss. That quality win is the Steelers playoff game. Tebow's got a rocket, and consistently beat the coverage by "pulling the trigger." Orton doesn't make those throws. In fact, I think probably the only other QB who would have done as well in that game is Cam Newton. The Steelers were hell bent on shutting down the run, and didn't respect Tebow's arm at all. Tebow definitely made them pay for it. He deserves ample credit for that win. Kudos to Tebow.

But the rest of the year? The offense he played in was pop gun. Comical. It was run-heavy, control the clock, and play defense. Those games ain't pretty, but they will win you regular season games against bad opponents all the time. Just ask Herm Edwards and Damon Huard in their 2006 playoff season. What that style of football does is take the pressure off the defense by forcing them to go onto the field less often for shorter amounts of time. And it also cuts down on turnovers and mistakes.

That style of football can win you a lot of regular season games, especially if your schedule is favorable. Miami, Matt Cassel Kansas City, Oakland, Chargers, Vikings, Caleb Hanie Bears. I guess I will also give the Jets to Tebow as an impressive win, even though the Jets were in free fall mode by that point. All of these are teams with HUGE problems. They make mistakes, turn the ball over, stall, and will get beaten by solid defense, a run game, and a QB on a short leash who won't turn the ball over.

So I totally understand why Elway is rolling with Tebow next year. He'd look pretty bad and face some huge fan scrutiny if he didn't start him. But I'm saying, I'll hold off my fears of the almighty Tebow until I see him properly read coverage and throw a crisp, accurate, 9 yard out over the middle.
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And actually, let's talk about that 3-game skid to end the season for a second. What the hell happened? The Patriots loss is understandable, but Buffalo? ****ing Buffalo? How about Kansas City (who was mathematically eliminated the previous week) AT HOME, when the results of the Raiders/Chargers game were still unsure? Win any ONE of those games and you guys can officially call it quits. What kind of a "winner" attitude is that?

Yes, I'm aware of the contradiction in me saying Tebow sucks and then turning around to hold him to a high standard. The point I'm trying to make is that he apparently "just wins games" when he has something to prove to people. Otherwise... oops, I guess.
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