Chiefs Emery to Bears as next GM?

[Marco Polo]

Sorry if repost, hopefully this wouldn't hurt our scouting for the draft.

Two league sources tell the Chicago Sun Times that Chiefs college scouting director Phil Emery is in the "driver's seat" to replace Jerry Angelo as the Bears' next general manager.

Emery worked in the Falcons' front office when Atlanta drafted Michael Vick, and has been with Scott Pioli in Kansas City for the last three seasons. A 31-year football veteran, Emery's background is almost strictly in college scouting.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

If you want to keep praising Emery, stop putting guys in there that were drafted in 2009.

No one will notice if Phil Emery leaves.

I put Succop and Belcher in there for a reason.

Let me ask you a question...

Which do you think makes more sense?

1) Phil Emery scouts Jovan Belcher while working for Atlanta and knows quite a bit about him being Belcher is a 4-3 DE at Maine and after Phil signed in KC on April 30th (after the draft) that he spoke up about JB to Pioli as a guy they should bring in and Belcher is signed May a week and a half later (he was signed May 9th)

2) Pioli and his ONE SCOUT found Belcher at Maine (when Belcher was a DE for them) and though/knew enough about his abilities to be able to play 3-4 ilb that they offered him a UDFA contract.

I listed the third and later guys that were good talents that slipped in the draft and that the ONLY one Pioli got on his own, even with high picks every round in 09, was Succop.

If you guys think either of the last two drafts were anything short of extremely good, you need to do some research on other teams drafts and re-assess your expectations to include realistic ones.

[xztop12]

actually last years draft wasn't good because of who we drafted. It was how long we waited before we drafted them... By not jumping for Houston in the second, and waiting for Stanzi and Poe, it was like we knew exactly when other teams wanted to grab the guys we wanted.

(IE: top-secret stuff paying off)

Originally Posted by BossChief

Idiot.

...

I FIRMLY believe that the outstanding quality of our last two drafts has been because of Emery and Haleys inputs and background.

We lose Emery, look forward to subpar drafts in coming years.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by Laz

lol ... so Haley gets the credit for anything good and Pioli gets credit for every thing bad.


this place is so full of shit

Amazing, isn't it? Emery might be leaving (of course it's because of the bad atmosphere at Arrowhead, just like Haley), and suddenly he's the only reason the draft was working.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by BossChief

I put Succop and Belcher in there for a reason.

Let me ask you a question...

Which do you think makes more sense?

1) Phil Emery scouts Jovan Belcher while working for Atlanta and knows quite a bit about him being Belcher is a 4-3 DE at Maine and after Phil signed in KC on April 30th (after the draft) that he spoke up about JB to Pioli as a guy they should bring in and Belcher is signed May a week and a half later (he was signed May 9th)

2) Pioli and his ONE SCOUT found Belcher at Maine (when Belcher was a DE for them) and though/knew enough about his abilities to be able to play 3-4 ilb that they offered him a UDFA contract.

I listed the third and later guys that were good talents that slipped in the draft and that the ONLY one Pioli got on his own, even with high picks every round in 09, was Succop.

If you guys think either of the last two drafts were anything short of extremely good, you need to do some research on other teams drafts and re-assess your expectations to include realistic ones.

I never said they weren't good.

Phil Emery is the director of scouting. He's not the end all and be all of the scouting department. They have a lot of capable guys in that department now and it's not going to hell in a hand basket because he's leaving.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by Brock

Amazing, isn't it? Emery might be leaving (of course it's because of the bad atmosphere at Arrowhead, just like Haley), and suddenly he's the only reason the draft was working.

Of course. Don't forget Haley gone too is going to ruin our drafts.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Of course. Don't forget Haley gone too is going to ruin our drafts.

Yeah, I mean his dad was a great scout, undoubtedly he must be too. After all, he spent a couple of years keeping his dad's coffee warm with the Jets.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Laz

lol ... so Haley gets the credit for anything good and Pioli gets credit for every thing bad.


this place is so full of shit

It's not that at all, laz.

Pioli gets the credit for making decisions with information given to him by the people he puts in place to gather that information.

That's why you hire a director of college scouting.

All I'm saying is that the people giving him said information (Phil Emery managing them) have obviously done a really good job of collecting the information that Pioli bases his decisions on and that losing that information will probably hurt us because with said information the results were damn good.

That fair?

[crazycoffey]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Brock, you think our last two drafts have been average or below average?

If so, .

Originally Posted by SNR

Who are the great players from the 2011 draft besides Houston?

Well, we probably don't know them very well yet because they're ****ING ROOKIES.

Christ, I ****ing hate eric.

come on guys, we haven't won a superbowl yet, so it's obvious we haven't drafted well lately....

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Of course. Don't forget Haley gone too is going to ruin our drafts.

Originally Posted by Brock

Yeah, I mean his dad was a great scout, undoubtedly he must be too. After all, he spent a couple of years keeping his dad's coffee warm with the Jets.

So, neither of you think that losing the director of college scouting after two solid drafts is a big deal?

I'm not saying we don't have people in place that could step up and do as good a job, it's possible.

I am just saying that the draft is what this team thrived on IMO the last two years and that hopefully session be able to continue our string of quality drafts (sans 09)

[Brock]

Originally Posted by BossChief

So, neither of you think that losing the director of college scouting after two solid drafts is a big deal?

I'm not saying we don't have people in place that could step up and do as good a job, it's possible.

I am just saying that the draft is what this team thrived on IMO the last two years and that hopefully session be able to continue our string of quality drafts (sans 09)

No, I doubt it's going to have any effect at all.

I also, unlike you, don't think Haley ever EVER had anything to do with the drafts. Just thinking about that makes me

[DeezNutz]

Haley's "accomplishments" in the war room? . Maybe if a few Perkins waitresses were serving.

[BossChief]

Pioli and Haley worked together on almost every pick.

Haley was also at the senior bowl practices as well as the combine.

But you're right, he never had anything to do with the draft.

[DeezNutz]

I don't think Pioli and Haley worked together on much of anything, which is exactly why the latter is looking for HS golf programs to run.

[BossChief]

According to Haleys interview after he got canned, the worked together in every pick but Pioli had the final say.

Said they argued about the Tyson Jackson pick.

I wonder who Haley wanted at the time?

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by BossChief

According to Haleys interview after he got canned, the worked together in every pick but Pioli had the final say.

Said they argued about the Tyson Jackson pick.

I wonder who Haley wanted at the time?

Not sure. You could be right and Haley was in the loop and respected. But I have serious questions about how much The Gum Wrapper of the Decade trusts anyone other than his own genious.