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Old 01-26-2012, 09:42 AM  
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Jeff Chadiha Interviewed on 810 this morning -Interesting bits about Cassel and OC

Jeff Chadiha of ESPN was interviewed on 810 this morning and had some interesting bits about Cassel:

- He revealed that Haley told him that his father, Dick Haley (famous Steelers personnel man), upon watching Cassel practice told him "I don't think you can win with this guy"

- Was told by a source within the Chiefs that he trusts that Matt Cassel was still mistakenly calling out plays using Patriots terminology...in year two

- Was told that Weiss was not a Cassel fan at all (I know this isn't new, but yet another source confirming what we already know)

- Was informed by multiple sources around the league that the Chiefs OC job is not a prime destination because of the atmosphere created by Pioli, lack of confidence in the staying power of Romeo and the fact that Cassel is the QB

Very depressing interview....

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Old 01-26-2012, 11:16 AM   #91
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I don't look at it that way at all. Hell, they had Bledsoe and continued to draft QBs.

I also look at it in context-we had Brodie "no longer in the league" Croyle and Tyler(3rd string)Thigpen. Given the circumstances, for a 2nd rounder he attempted to upgrade the position and actually did, unless someone wants to argue we'd be better served with Croyle or Thigpen at the helm. Those were the choices.
Choices:

Draft Sanchez or Freeman with a 1st.
Draft Tebow in the 1st, or Clausen in the 2nd, or McCoy in the 2nd or 3rd.

They realistically weren't going to take a QB in the 1st or 2nd this year after Cassel made the Pro-Bowl.
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Old 01-26-2012, 11:16 AM   #92
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I'm good friends with Ryan Lilja's cousin. He talks to Lilja quite often. According to him, Lilja said that Haley constantly belittled Cassel in front of the team. Said he treated Cassel like a child, and that respect was a constant issue. Lilja thought Cassel was a timid dork, but a nice guy. Cassel tried constantly to fire up the team, but nobody really responded when Cassel would go on his fiery tirades.

Again... this is 3rd person info from Lilja's cousin.
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Old 01-26-2012, 11:19 AM   #93
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Cassel tried constantly to fire up the team, but nobody really responded when Cassel would go on his fiery tirades.

Again... this is 3rd person info from Lilja's cousin.
That's because players are inspired by guys who get it done on the field.
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Old 01-26-2012, 11:20 AM   #94
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I'm good friends with Ryan Lilja's cousin. He talks to Lilja quite often. According to him, Lilja said that Haley constantly belittled Cassel in front of the team. Said he treated Cassel like a child, and that respect was a constant issue. Lilja thought Cassel was a timid dork, but a nice guy. Cassel tried constantly to fire up the team, but nobody really responded when Cassel would go on his fiery tirades.

Again... this is 3rd person info from Lilja's cousin.
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On a serious note, I have been waiting for Whitlock to write a scathing article about the whole Pioli/Arrowhead environment scandal as Whit is known for "told you so's", I can't believe he hasn't chimed in. Any chance that I missed the article???
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Old 01-26-2012, 11:22 AM   #95
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Old 01-26-2012, 11:22 AM   #96
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Bringing in Cassel as a stopgap isn't the major crime here. Putting next to nothing in the line of succession is.
I agree, but is that enough to let the good he has done, outweigh it?

Also, there is a player on the team named Stanzi, it isn't exactly like he ignored it.
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Old 01-26-2012, 11:23 AM   #97
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I'm good friends with Ryan Lilja's cousin. He talks to Lilja quite often. According to him, Lilja said that Haley constantly belittled Cassel in front of the team. Said he treated Cassel like a child, and that respect was a constant issue. Lilja thought Cassel was a timid dork, but a nice guy. Cassel tried constantly to fire up the team, but nobody really responded when Cassel would go on his fiery tirades.

Again... this is 3rd person info from Lilja's cousin.
I believe this a hundred percent.
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He certainly plays like a timid dork
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Old 01-26-2012, 11:24 AM   #99
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Old 01-26-2012, 11:26 AM   #102
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I agree, but is that enough to let the good he has done, outweigh it?

Also, there is a player on the team named Stanzi, it isn't exactly like he ignored it.
Right, but if Stanzi is, even at this early point in his career, not a better option than Tyler Palko? Which I do not believe, but they still didn't put him on the field. What was Palko doing on an NFL team?
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Old 01-26-2012, 11:26 AM   #103
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Also, there is a player on the team named Stanzi, it isn't exactly like he ignored it.
Ehh that's debatable. When you have a QB like Matt Cassel and trying to 5th round yourself a Tom Brady isn't exactly handling the problem.

Have to invest more. I'm willing to give him this offseason to see what he does to try to strengthen the QB competition.
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Old 01-26-2012, 11:28 AM   #105
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Right, but if Stanzi is, even at this early point in his career, not a better option than Tyler Palko? Which I do not believe, but they still didn't put him on the field. What was Palko doing on an NFL team?
He was Haley's little buddy.

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