Chiefs Jeff Chadiha Interviewed on 810 this morning -Interesting bits about Cassel and OC

chiefzilla1501 · 02-02-2012, 09:28 PM

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2 in 3 years? Dude, for the ump- mother ****ing -teenth time...Haley got blown out 9 times in 2 1/2 years. That's 7 more than the 2 you keep talking about.

You are talking about firing a coach because of 2 games that were clearly due to poor coaching. You dont' factor in that maybe much of the 2012 blowouts were due to the fact that we didn't have nearly enough talent, regardless of the coach.

**SAUTO** · 02-02-2012, 09:31 PM

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You are talking about firing a coach because of 2 games that were clearly due to poor coaching. You dont' factor in that maybe much of the 2012 blowouts were due to the fact that we didn't have nearly enough talent, regardless of the coach.

and crennel comes in and beats two playoff teams in three games. How many did vince lombardi reincarnate beat in his time here?
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**petegz28** · 02-02-2012, 09:51 PM

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You are talking about firing a coach because of 2 games that were clearly due to poor coaching. You dont' factor in that maybe much of the 2012 blowouts were due to the fact that we didn't have nearly enough talent, regardless of the coach.

What about the other 5 blowouts in 2009 and 2010? That's 2.5 blowouts a year. Prior to Haley we were getting blown out .39 times a year for 46 years. Yeah, that's like once every 3 years. Haley was on pace for 3 a year. You can do the math but that's ****ing insane when you compare the 46 years prior to him.

So you fire a coach when your team is getting waxed almost one out of every 5 games. You fire a coach when you consistently see the plays not getting in until there are 7 or 8 secs left on the clock. You fire a coach when you are getting ass blasted and you refuse to put a different QB in for experience if anything. Then after all that said coach gets an unsportsman like penalty? Nevermind he chased off the 2 prior OC's, one 2 weeks before the season. He put his money on ****ing Tyler Palko for not 1 but 2 seasons and refused to yank him even after he say how much fail the guy threw. Along with the constant childish cursing and yelling on the sidelines.

Yeah, you fire that coach in a ****ing heartbeat. And I didn't even mention our pathetic training camp fiasco.

chiefzilla1501 · 02-02-2012, 09:58 PM

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What about the other 5 blowouts in 2009 and 2010? That's 2.5 blowouts a year. Prior to Haley we were getting blown out .39 times a year for 46 years. Yeah, that's like once every 3 years. Haley was on pace for 3 a year. You can do the math but that's ****ing insane when you compare the 46 years prior to him.

So you fire a coach when your team is getting waxed almost one out of every 5 games. You fire a coach when you consistently see the plays not getting in until there are 7 or 8 secs left on the clock. You fire a coach when you are getting ass blasted and you refuse to put a different QB in for experience if anything. Then after all that said coach gets an unsportsman like penalty? Nevermind he chased off the 2 prior OC's, one 2 weeks before the season. He put his money on ****ing Tyler Palko for not 1 but 2 seasons and refused to yank him even after he say how much fail the guy threw. Along with the constant childish cursing and yelling on the sidelines.

Yeah, you fire that coach in a ****ing heartbeat. And I didn't even mention our pathetic training camp fiasco.

And yet, none of these address the fact that this team never had a good QB in those 3 years. Had absolutely horrendous depth.

I don't get blaming Haley for bringing Palko in. Coaches do that all the time. What was embarrassing was that our GM never, in 2 years, brought in a veteran QB to push Palko out.

In the end, horrible personnel/roster decisions are a lot more to blame for this mess than coaching mistakes (and yes, I recognize that many coaching mistakes were made).

**petegz28** · 02-02-2012, 10:36 PM

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And yet, none of these address the fact that this team never had a good QB in those 3 years. Had absolutely horrendous depth.

I don't get blaming Haley for bringing Palko in. Coaches do that all the time. What was embarrassing was that our GM never, in 2 years, brought in a veteran QB to push Palko out.

In the end, horrible personnel/roster decisions are a lot more to blame for this mess than coaching mistakes (and yes, I recognize that many coaching mistakes were made).

Haley wanted Palko. Did you ever think that a GM might listen to his HC? Haley chased off 3 other QB's in Croyle, Gutierez and Gerrard or whoever it was.

chiefzilla1501 · 02-02-2012, 10:43 PM

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Haley wanted Palko. Did you ever think that a GM might listen to his HC? Haley chased off 3 other QB's in Croyle, Gutierez and Gerrard or whoever it was.

Give me a break. Haley picked Palko over Croyle and Gutierez, two QBs who aren't even in the league anymore. Is that really the argument you want to make? The Texans didn't even want to sign him mid-season when they were out of options. The Redskins cut Gutierez a few months after they signed him.

Pioli didn't have to force anyone on Haley, but he could have easily signed a competitive 4th QB option and given Haley the choice to keep Palko over that guy.

No matter which way you slice it. Pioli gave Haley a shitty starting QB and never in 3 years gave Haley an even remotely decent QB.

**petegz28** · 02-02-2012, 10:44 PM

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Give me a break. Haley picked Palko over Croyle and Gutierez, two QBs who aren't even in the league anymore. Is that really the argument you want to make? The Texans didn't even want to sign him mid-season when they were out of options. The Redskins cut Gutierez a few months after they signed him.

Pioli didn't have to force anyone on Haley, but he could have easily signed a competitive 4th QB option and given Haley the choice to keep Palko over that guy.

No matter which way you slice it. Pioli gave Haley a shitty starting QB and never in 3 years gave Haley an even remotely decent QB.

Yeah cause Palko was much better. The sooner you get it through your head that Haley was not a good HC the better off you will be.

chiefzilla1501 · 02-02-2012, 10:47 PM

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Yeah cause Palko was much better. The sooner you get it through your head that Haley was not a good HC the better off you will be.

Pioli gave Haley Cassel as his starter.

The four backup QBs he gave Haley were Palko, Croyle, Gutierez, and Stanzi. 3 of them will be sitting on a couch next year. One of them, Stanzi, doesn't seem to be inspiring much confidence even post-Haley.

(Orton came too little too late)

I'll let that sink in. But by all means, blame the coach who was forced to choose piece of shit over most likely shitty.