May be going to jail for awhile

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Bullshit to all the "you messed up...should have called the cops" posts.

Pussies.

If a grown man slapped my son...I would have done the same thing and held my hands out for the cops to cuff.

I will sit in jail and know that this man will think twice next time...and my son will know he can count on me...rather than pussy-toe around the situation.

Fight or Flight.

[2112]

Remember that guy that was video taped shooting in the head and killing the guy with the cops holding him that sexually abused his son like 15 years ago?

[NewChief]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

Bullshit to all the "you messed up...should have called the cops" posts.

Pussies.

If a grown man slapped my son...I would have done the same thing and held my hands out for the cops to cuff.

I will sit in jail and know that this man will think twice next time...and my son will know he can count on me...rather than pussy-toe around the situation.

Fight or Flight.

You don't have a clue of how violence works. Violent kid beaters don't stop being violent kid beaters because someone kicks their ass. That's not the way it works. They pick on helpless kids because they're helpless shits themselves. When you beat the **** out of them, it just makes them worse. He's not going to think twice. Hitting a kid doesn't involve thinking. It involves emotions and acting without thinking.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Originally Posted by NewChief

You don't have a clue of how violence works. Violent kid beaters don't stop being violent kid beaters because someone kicks their ass. That's not the way it works. They pick on helpless kids because they're helpless shits themselves. When you beat the **** out of them, it just makes them worse. He's not going to think twice. Hitting a kid doesn't involve thinking. It involves emotions and acting without thinking.

And if/when this scenario goes to court...what will stop the child from telling the cops/judge that the ex hit her?

...take it from their.

[doomy3]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

Bullshit to all the "you messed up...should have called the cops" posts.

Pussies.

If a grown man slapped my son...I would have done the same thing and held my hands out for the cops to cuff.

I will sit in jail and know that this man will think twice next time...and my son will know he can count on me...rather than pussy-toe around the situation.

Fight or Flight.

Why would the man think twice? You are in jail. What in the hell can you do from jail to help your children? Who is going to keep the man in check from hitting your kids again while you're in jail?

[Brock]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

Bullshit to all the "you messed up...should have called the cops" posts.

Pussies.

If a grown man slapped my son...I would have done the same thing and held my hands out for the cops to cuff.

I will sit in jail and know that this man will think twice next time...and my son will know he can count on me...rather than pussy-toe around the situation.

Fight or Flight.

Being smart enough to understand how the law works doesn't mean you're a pussy. This guy's going to jail, he's probably going to get a restraining order put on him, and he just might not be allowed to see his kids for a while. That's stupidity.

If he had done it right, it would be the other way around, and he could have kicked the dude's ass at a more opportune time of his own choosing.

[NewChief]

Originally Posted by Brock

Being smart enough to understand how the law works doesn't mean you're a pussy. This guy's going to jail, he's probably going to get a restraining order put on him, and he just might not be allowed to see his kids for a while. That's stupidity.

If he had done it right, it would be the other way around, and he could have kicked the dude's ass at a more opportune time of his own choosing.

Exactly this. Thank you. The result (assuming its true) is that he's not going to be seeing his kids, and the dude who slapped them is going to get to see them anytime he wants... and MTG's hands are going to be tied by the law.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Originally Posted by NewChief

Exactly this. Thank you. The result (assuming its true) is that he's not going to be seeing his kids, and the dude who slapped them is going to get to see them anytime he wants... and MTG's hands are going to be tied by the law.

Assuming the mother doesn't press charges...or SRS gets involved beings a child was hit.

I think people are looking past the fact that this guy slapped (assaulted) a child.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

Assuming the mother doesn't press charges...or SRS gets involved beings a child was hit.

I think people are looking past the fact that this guy slapped (assaulted) a child.

Oh yeah, SRS. A quality, well run organization if there ever was one. Wake up.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Originally Posted by Brock

Oh yeah, SRS. A quality, well run organization if there ever was one. Wake up.

With my wife, a social worker, I have heard plenty of situations like this where SRS gets involved.

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

With my wife, a social worker, I have heard plenty of situations like this where SRS gets involved.

So, they get involved. Great. Dude doesn't touch the kid for a few months, SRS says "welp, looks like everything's fine now", and goes on their merry way.

End result of this stupidity: dad doesn't get to see his kids for a while, maybe a real long while, and ex's boyfriend is maybe a little more careful, but probably has full access to the kids.

[luv]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

Assuming the mother doesn't press charges...or SRS gets involved beings a child was hit.

I think people are looking past the fact that this guy slapped (assaulted) a child.

The abuser should be investigated and charged. I don't think people are ignoring that as much as they're focusing on how this will affect the OP.

[NewChief]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

Assuming the mother doesn't press charges...or SRS gets involved beings a child was hit.

I think people are looking past the fact that this guy slapped (assaulted) a child.

From what we know of the ****ed up OP and his ****ed up situations, the ex is most likely going to press charges against him for trespass and assaulting her current boyfriend, and they're going to have the kids lie in court to say that the dude never did anything to them.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Originally Posted by NewChief

From what we know of the ****ed up OP and his ****ed up situations, the ex is most likely going to press charges against him for trespass and assaulting her current boyfriend, and they're going to have the kids lie in court to say that the dude never did anything to them.

Yeah...I have no idea what will happen with that situation.

I am just saying...in general, this guy should be charged with something or rather for hitting a child in a non-trailor park scenario.

[NewChief]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

Yeah...I have no idea what will happen with that situation.

I am just saying...in general, this guy should be charged with something or rather for hitting a child in a non-trailor park scenario.

I agree the dude should be charged with something, but I don't think that the OP did anything positive for himself, his kids, or the legality of the situation by going over and beating dude up.