Chiefs Trent Richardson update - Page 3

saphojunkie · 12:56 PM

Didn't see this anywhere, and I couldn't find the Trent Richardson thread. Sorry I'm even a marginally capable detective.

Trent Richardson had surgery on his knee, and won't participate in the combine. However, Chris Mortenson now reporting that he won't even participate in the Alabama pro day.

Those who want him to fall to us at 11 will likely get your wish. They are saying he could fall as low as #21.

The new question is...do you take a risk on him in the top 15?

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RB Trent Richardson wont be working out in Bama Pro Day March 7, either. Sometime in March after Scope removed small loose particle in knee

suds79 · 02-23-2012, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

We have a CLEAR starter at RB. We have Jack & Shit (and Jack left town) at RT.

While you're right in that we have a clear starter at RB in Jamaal, that doesn't mean much in today's NFL. It's a least a 2 back league. We essentially have a 1/2 a starter in Jamaal if you follow me.

Both of these positions (RB & RT) can either be addressed in round 1 or later in the draft.

If they're deciding between the two? I want them to take the highest rated prospect.

More than anything, I think I'd like to see them trade down.

O.city · 02-23-2012, 04:22 PM

Richardson is a dynamic playmaker. IMO you take that over a lineman anyday. Especially a RT, who can be found later in the draft.

WV · 02-23-2012, 04:22 PM

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And if you read the OP you'd know the same is true of Richardson.
There are NEVER any guarantees.

If the OP is true, then it was a routine knee clean out....that is a totally different planet from a torn ACL, try again.

Micjones · 02-23-2012, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by suds79

While you're right in that we have a clear starter at RB in Jamaal, that doesn't mean much in today's NFL. It's a least a 2 back league. We essentially have a 1/2 a starter in Jamaal if you follow me.

I tend to agree, but that hardly means you need to go back to the well with your highest pick. BenJarvus Green-Ellis would be a suitable #2. As would a RB drafted in the Middle Rounds.

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Both of these positions (RB & RT) can either be addressed in round 1 or later in the draft.

If they're deciding between the two? I want them to take the highest rated prospect.

My philosophy is BPA at a position of need.

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More than anything, I think I'd like to see them trade down.

If the right dominoes fall between now and then...I'll probably agree with you.

Micjones · 02-23-2012, 04:31 PM

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Richardson is a dynamic playmaker. IMO you take that over a lineman anyday. Especially a RT, who can be found later in the draft.

A RB can't be found later in the draft?

suds79 · 02-23-2012, 04:32 PM

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A RB can't be found later in the draft?

They can. But you can say the same thing about RT.

Just take the best player.

Micjones · 02-23-2012, 04:32 PM

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If the OP is true, then it was a routine knee clean out....that is a totally different planet from a torn ACL, try again.

Not sure where I made the two comparable.
I'm simply saying there's a concern about his health.
He'll probably be fine, but that doesn't mean it won't give teams a reason for pause in the Top 15.

Micjones · 02-23-2012, 04:34 PM

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They can. But you can say the same thing about RT.

Just take the best player.

The issue is which position is a bigger need for the Chiefs?
The answer is clearly RT.

Sure, Charles may never get back to where he was, but at least we have a player with the talent to succeed there (barring re-injury).
We have NOTHING at RT.

suds79 · 02-23-2012, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

The issue is which position is a bigger need for the Chiefs?
The answer is clearly RT.

Sure, Charles may never get back to where he was, but at least we have a player with the talent to succeed there (barring re-injury).
We have NOTHING at RT.

Yes RT is a bigger need but lets not freak out like we need a LT (which usually go fast in the 1st). It's RT.

Just don't reach. You do that and you end up with a Tyson Jackson again. BPA

WV · 02-23-2012, 04:36 PM

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Not sure where I made the two comparable.
I'm simply saying there's a concern about his health.
He'll probably be fine, but that doesn't mean it won't give teams a reason for pause in the Top 15.

Let me get this straight....Your ok with acknowledging JC coming back as the clear starter coming off of a torn ACL, but Richardson getting his knee cleaned out should be cause for concern? Just trying to understand your logic.

Micjones · 02-23-2012, 04:39 PM

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Yes RT is a bigger need but lets not freak out like we need a LT (which usually go fast in the 1st). It's RT.

Just don't reach. You do that and you end up with a Tyson Jackson again. BPA

I definitely don't want them to reach, but most of the mocks I've seen have both Martin and Rieff going in the Top 15.
I'm not sure if we drafted a RT that we'd be reaching.

O.city · 02-23-2012, 04:39 PM

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A RB can't be found later in the draft?

Yeah they can be.

But the difference between Richardson and a third round rb is much bigger than the difference between a first round RT and a third rounder.

The main reason I don't want a RT that early is that if we were to draft someone to play RT that early, it would likely have to be a LT to convert. Which is fine if he can convert. But you could get the best pure RT prospect possibly in the third round.

Micjones · 02-23-2012, 04:41 PM

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Let me get this straight....Your ok with acknowledging JC coming back as the clear starter coming off of a torn ACL, but Richardson getting his knee cleaned out should be cause for concern? Just trying to understand your logic.

You seem to be having trouble.

The point I've made all along is that there are no guarantees with either of them as it concerns their health. Charles had the more serious injury. No question about that.

We know Charles is coming back though. Players come back from ACL injuries every year. Will he be the same back? That remains to be seen. What we know is that we're set if he is.

We at least have a capable player at RB available.

We have NOTHING in the cupboard at RT.
NOTHING at all.

Brock · 02-23-2012, 04:42 PM

A RB usually doesn't bounce right back from an ACL.

Micjones · 02-23-2012, 04:43 PM

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A RB usually doesn't bounce right back from an ACL.

I suppose that depends on what you mean by "bounce right back".
To say that they CAN'T have success after an ACL injury though...is false.

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