Rumor: Redskins prepared to offer at least 4 picks for the #2 pick.

[The Franchise]

www.Rotoworld.com

Teams sources tell NBC Philadelphia's Howard Eskin the Redskins are prepared to offer the Rams their top three 2012 picks and "at least" their 2013 first-round pick to move up to draft Baylor QB Robert Griffin III.

If true, it would be a positively Ricky Williams-ian haul for the Rams, who saw the value of their No. 2 pick increase even further on Sunday when Griffin was unofficially timed at a blazing 4.38 in the 40 at the Combine. Eskin's report comes two days after SI.com's Tony Pauline reported the Rams have engaged in "exploratory talks" with the Redskins about a swap. Source: Howard Eskin on Twitter

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by Setsuna

Oh yeah whoever said Luck is comparable to Newton is reeruned. Cam wasn't even trying at the combine. Don't be reeruned, he knew for a fact he'd be #1 the overall pick and he is the type of person to not try because he knows he won't be punished for it.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by tredadda

Except this team is damn near built through the draft as it is, all except for RT and QB. Funny you mention building a team through FA not working yet you support us getting Manning in FA even though 40+ years of Chiefs history says that model does not work.

I absolutely want to sign Peyton. But only if they draft a QB in the first round. And I believe we can do just as well with a hell of a lot less picks if we trade in 2013, no matter how good our record is.

And this team may be built through the draft. But over the next 2 years, almost all of our draft picks are going to become fully contracted veterans. In Tyson Jackson's case, you'll save a lot of money. Dorsey to some extent too. In cases like Albert, Moeaki, Asamoah, Kendrick Lewis, Belcher, etc... you're going to have really, really overpay them to keep them and you're going to pay them a shitload more than what they make now, which is table scraps. Meanwhile, Hali turns 30. Bowe starts to hit his 30's. Jamaal Charles might start to lose a step.

You don't build your team primarily through free agency. You have to build it through the draft. And unless you hit not just a home run but a grand slam, one solid pick isn't going to be enough to justify 2 years of drafts.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by tredadda

This year we were looking at Luck, RGIII, Barkley, and Jones in the first round. Two of them declared. You are hoping these others declare and are even worth a first round selection. The problem is, too many people are afraid to trade up. There will always be the contingent that feels that trading up is expensive and not worth it. I sadly think our Front Office (the ones who truly matter in all this) agrees with that though process. If we end up drafting 20 or later then that means our QB, whomever that might be, was good enough to get us into the playoffs. That will cause the FO to rest on their laurels instead of addressing the QB situation, ala Cassel and the 2010 Chiefs.

I'm not assuming anything. I'm pretty sure those guys have no choice but to declare. The only two who might not are Murray and Bray. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

[Okie_Apparition]

a)So the Redskins want to give up 4 draft picks for RGIII
B)who I heard last year at this time was projected to be drafted as a WR
Somewhere between a & b is a grand canyon of WTF?

[L.A. Chieffan]

Originally Posted by Okie_Apparition

a)So the Redskins want to give up 4 draft picks for RGIII
B)who I heard last year at this time was projected to be drafted as a WR
Somewhere between a & b is a grand canyon of WTF?

he has a cool name

[Okie_Apparition]

The all mighty Newton was getting booed at the Pro Bowl
the pro bowl

[BossChief]

Tannehill was a receiver except for his last 20 games in college and people that have seen all his games say he is a "natural quarterback" and his weakness is playing time.

RG3 has never been talked about as a receiver, he is a damn good quarterback.

Signing Peyton and drafting Tannehill would be "building a championship foundation" for this team.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

According to John Czarnecki of FOX Sports, the Rams have been getting "weird, uninterested signals" from the Browns on the possibility of trading up two spots to draft Baylor's Robert Griffin III.
RGIII is coming off a dominant Combine, exceeding height expectations, exploding with Vick-like speed, and putting on the most impressive news conference display ESPN's John Clayton has seen in 24 years in Indy. While there's little doubt that Griffin will go off the board at No. 2 overall, we've now seen several reports in two days suggesting the Browns won't be nearly as aggressive as the Redskins. We've also seen at least a handful of national reports warning not to rule out a "mystery" team in the RGIII sweepstakes. Feb 27 - 2:37 AM

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/...rt-griffin-iii

[Chiefs=Champions]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

According to John Czarnecki of FOX Sports, the Rams have been getting "weird, uninterested signals" from the Browns on the possibility of trading up two spots to draft Baylor's Robert Griffin III.
RGIII is coming off a dominant Combine, exceeding height expectations, exploding with Vick-like speed, and putting on the most impressive news conference display ESPN's John Clayton has seen in 24 years in Indy. While there's little doubt that Griffin will go off the board at No. 2 overall, we've now seen several reports in two days suggesting the Browns won't be nearly as aggressive as the Redskins. We've also seen at least a handful of national reports warning not to rule out a "mystery" team in the RGIII sweepstakes. Feb 27 - 2:37 AM

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/...rt-griffin-iii

Mystery team?

[Steron]

I've said it another thread so I'll say it here.

I don't want Peyton Manning and the huge contract that will come with a 35 year old broken QB. He's only been sacked 231 times in 13 years (You can't really count 2011 as a 0, can you?). Do the math, that's 18 (I rounded up) times a season. We gave up 34 last year. Roughly double. Of course he makes the offensive line better somewhat but do you want to have him getting hit for sacks at twice the rate he's used to? This doesn't even take into consideration plays where the QB gets hit but not sacked. (I admit I didn't look a long time for the QB hit stat). At 35 the body doesn't bounce back like it did at 25.


Keep Orton for two years.
Cut or trade Cassel. I don't care which.
Draft Tannehill at 1.11.
Let Tannehill and Stanzi fight for QB2.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by Steron

I've said it another thread so I'll say it here.

I don't want Peyton Manning and the huge contract that will come with a 35 year old broken QB. He's only been sacked 231 times in 13 years (You can't really count 2011 as a 0, can you?). Do the math, that's 18 (I rounded up) times a season. We gave up 34 last year. Roughly double.

The same line that with Matt Cassel gave up nearly 3 sacks a game and with Kyle Orton only had 1 in 3 games. Our line is more on the QB than the actual OL itself.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

The same line that with Matt Cassel gave up nearly 3 sacks a game and with Kyle Orton only had 1 in 3 games. Our line is more on the QB than the actual OL itself.

This.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Originally Posted by Steron

Keep Orton for two years.
Cut or trade Cassel. I don't care which.
Draft Tannehill at 1.11.
Let Tannehill and Stanzi fight for QB2.

My signature agrees.

[RustShack]

Originally Posted by Steron

I've said it another thread so I'll say it here.

I don't want Peyton Manning and the huge contract that will come with a 35 year old broken QB. He's only been sacked 231 times in 13 years (You can't really count 2011 as a 0, can you?). Do the math, that's 18 (I rounded up) times a season. We gave up 34 last year. Roughly double. Of course he makes the offensive line better somewhat but do you want to have him getting hit for sacks at twice the rate he's used to? This doesn't even take into consideration plays where the QB gets hit but not sacked. (I admit I didn't look a long time for the QB hit stat). At 35 the body doesn't bounce back like it did at 25.


Keep Orton for two years.
Cut or trade Cassel. I don't care which.
Draft Tannehill at 1.11.
Let Tannehill and Stanzi fight for QB2.

If he makes a lot of money here that means he was more than worth the signing. Incentive based contracts mean you have to reach certain mile stones to earn that money. That's the kind of contract he said he will take to prove he can still play.

So, if he sucks like you claim he will, we don't lose a lot of money.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by RustShack

That's the kind of contract he said he will take to prove he can still play.

Do you really believe that?