Spinoff: Is the Chiefs organization distancing itself from Matt Cassel?

[Dante84]

Here's the facts:

- The Chiefs have never touched the subject of acquiring a new starting Quarterback outside of Matt before this offseason.... last week, even.

- Pioli reiterated that there "will be competition at the quarterback position. (That being said, he also said that Brodie, Thigpen, and Palko were 'competition' in the past).

- Romeo has spoken out twice in the past week about potential game changers like RG3, and Peyton Manning. He has also beat the drum for Kyle Orton and what he did last season.

- A story leaked last week regarding the Chiefs' rumored interest in acquiring Peyton Manning should he be available.

- The Chiefs interviewed the top 3 QB's at the combine (Luck, RG3, Tannehill).

- On the front page of the official Chiefs website, there is an interview with Greg Cosell, who essentially says that the Chiefs can't fully compete with Cassel at the helm. Again, this is on the Chiefs website...


Those facts considered, it appears that the organization might be attempting to untie the knot between Cassel and the starting QB spot. This is a major shift from the past. It brings to light a few questions:

1. Why?
- To win the media/public back?
- To attract/retain potential free agents that don't want to play with Cassel? (Bowe, TE's, Oline)

2 Why NOW?
- What strategic advantage does it pose to float these thoughts to the public?
- Does this hurt our case in FA or the draft, by showing our hand early?

And finally,

3. Will Pioli actually sack up and make a game-changing move?

[Epic Fail 007]

Originally Posted by Laz

still doesn't address the "why" about them talking to/about other QB's


in fact, if they are keeping Cassel, talking about other QB's is a bad thing. It creates a possible QB controversy. A controversy that imo Pioli has avoided at all cost so far.

I feel sticking with cassel as long as he has was just to piss haley off.

[T-post Tom]

Isn't it obvious? The Chiefs are going to sign Manning to start; trade up for RGIII as QBOTF; and sign Orton as the #2. Cassel will be traded for MULTIPLE high draft picks. The end.

Now go to bed, it's past your bedtime.

[Raiderhater]

You would have to think that, ego or not, Pioli is smart enough to know how to keep his job. Now he can easily say that Cassel showed improvement from '09 to '10 and that '11 was a result of injuries and Haley.

However he has to know that, 2010 not withstanding, Cassel is not good of a QB and isn't going to improve much more beyond '10s performance. He also has to know where the fan base sits on the issue and that if he stays the course sales are going to drop. Medicore football and dropping ticket sales equal no job.

I don't know, maybe is every bit as egotistical as many seem to think he is. Maybe he sticks to his guns on this. But I just have to believe that the man did not advance his career to this point by being that stubborn and dumb. If there isn't a new QB under the helm to start this season I guess I won't be shocked, but I will be a little surprised.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Dante84

Here's the facts:

- The Chiefs have never touched the subject of acquiring a new starting Quarterback outside of Matt before this offseason.... last week, even.

- Pioli reiterated that there "will be competition at the quarterback position. (That being said, he also said that Brodie, Thigpen, and Palko were 'competition' in the past).

- Romeo has spoken out twice in the past week about potential game changers like RG3, and Peyton Manning. He has also beat the drum for Kyle Orton and what he did last season.

- A story leaked last week regarding the Chiefs' rumored interest in acquiring Peyton Manning should he be available.

- The Chiefs interviewed the top 3 QB's at the combine (Luck, RG3, Tannehill).

- On the front page of the official Chiefs website, there is an interview with Greg Cosell, who essentially says that the Chiefs can't fully compete with Cassel at the helm. Again, this is on the Chiefs website...


Those facts considered, it appears that the organization might be attempting to untie the knot between Cassel and the starting QB spot. This is a major shift from the past. It brings to light a few questions:

1. Why?
- To win the media/public back?
- To attract/retain potential free agents that don't want to play with Cassel? (Bowe, TE's, Oline)

2 Why NOW?
- What strategic advantage does it pose to float these thoughts to the public?
- Does this hurt our case in FA or the draft, by showing our hand early?

And finally,

3. Will Pioli actually sack up and make a game-changing move?

BS. No way Pioli admits his mistake.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by Satanic Goat

Pioli has two years to save his ass. Bringing in a rookie QB throws a monkey wrench in that.

His best hope is Cassel riding a stacked team.

So you believe that Hunt won't Draft a QB because they haven't in 20+ years, but you don't think he'll keep Pioli around? Makes total sense..

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by TEX

BS. No way Pioli admits his mistake.

Like with Haley right?

Was that not admitting to making a mistake?

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Raiderhader

Maybe he sticks to his guns on this. But I just have to believe that the man did not advance his career to this point by being that stubborn and dumb.

Thats the only thing i hang my hopes on.

BIGGEST. OFFSEASON. EVER.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

So you believe that Hunt won't Draft a QB because they haven't in 20+ years, but you don't think he'll keep Pioli around? Makes total sense..

Pioli's the one calling the shots.

He'll hang himself.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by Satanic Goat

Pioli's the one calling the shots.

He'll hang himself.

If he doesn't get a Fn QB he will.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by scott free

Thats the only thing i hang my hopes on.

BIGGEST. OFFSEASON. EVER.

Same here. There are two ways to acquire a QB.

1. How the winners do it, through the draft

2. The Chiefs Way.

I also hang my hopes on him choosing option #1.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

If he doesn't get a Fn QB he will.

In his mind, he has his QB.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by Satanic Goat

In his mind, he has his QB.

I really don't buy it.

[RustShack]

You really are an idiot if you don't think all signs are pointing to a new QB in the Chiefs future for the first time since Cassel was acquired.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by RustShack

You really are an idiot if you don't think all signs are pointing to a new QB in the Chiefs future for the first time since Cassel was acquired.

A new QB? Maybe. A new starter? **** no. And certainly no 1st round QB.

[Dante84]

Originally Posted by TEX

BS. No way Pioli admits his mistake.

First off, like someone else said, He showed he is capable of this by firing Haley. Mid-season, no less.

Second, he gets an out if he gets a shiny, new QB for us to salivate over and divert our attention towards. If we get a Manning, or RG3 for instance, 90% of the fan base doesn't give a flying **** about his whiff on Matt Cassel.

It's really his only out.

Otherwise, like others have said, he will hang himself. If he holds on to Cassel, with no real competition, the mediocrity will continue and he will lose his job.

Pioli may be stubborn, and egotistical, but he is also very smart. He has a undying need to be well-liked and cares deeply for how he is viewed in the public eye.

That is why, his best case scenario, is to go all in on a big name QB.

He will be viewed as a hero, buy extra years, and ultimately, those are his two driving factors.

Keeping Matt does nothing for him, and I think he knows this. He is too smart not to.