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Old 02-27-2012, 06:59 PM  
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Spinoff: Is the Chiefs organization distancing itself from Matt Cassel?
Here's the facts:

- The Chiefs have never touched the subject of acquiring a new starting Quarterback outside of Matt before this offseason.... last week, even.

- Pioli reiterated that there "will be competition at the quarterback position. (That being said, he also said that Brodie, Thigpen, and Palko were 'competition' in the past).

- Romeo has spoken out twice in the past week about potential game changers like RG3, and Peyton Manning. He has also beat the drum for Kyle Orton and what he did last season.

- A story leaked last week regarding the Chiefs' rumored interest in acquiring Peyton Manning should he be available.

- The Chiefs interviewed the top 3 QB's at the combine (Luck, RG3, Tannehill).

- On the front page of the official Chiefs website, there is an interview with Greg Cosell, who essentially says that the Chiefs can't fully compete with Cassel at the helm. Again, this is on the Chiefs website...


Those facts considered, it appears that the organization might be attempting to untie the knot between Cassel and the starting QB spot. This is a major shift from the past. It brings to light a few questions:

1. Why?
- To win the media/public back?
- To attract/retain potential free agents that don't want to play with Cassel? (Bowe, TE's, Oline)

2 Why NOW?
- What strategic advantage does it pose to float these thoughts to the public?
- Does this hurt our case in FA or the draft, by showing our hand early?

And finally,

3. Will Pioli actually sack up and make a game-changing move?
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Old 02-27-2012, 10:10 PM   #61
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It's too bad they don't post attendance records. Though they'd be doctored if they did

Orton's first game was the win against the Packers so his two shoud be high. Second being the Raiders

I wonder if attendance fell off from Cassel to Palko or they showed up hoping to see Stanzi
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Old 02-27-2012, 10:14 PM   #62
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Chiefs will have a new qb next year. Mark it down.
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Old 02-27-2012, 10:22 PM   #63
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Chiefs will have a new qb next year. Mark it down.
A new QB or a new starting QB? Big difference. Replacing Palko is one thing, replacing Cassel is another.
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Old 02-27-2012, 10:23 PM   #64
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A new QB or a new starting QB? Big difference. Replacing Palko is one thing, replacing Cassel is another.
Some rookie who has no chance of being ready within 3 years.
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Old 02-27-2012, 10:32 PM   #65
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Old 02-27-2012, 10:50 PM   #66
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until now it's been 100% Cassel

everything they said was 100% Cassel and every QB move they made was all about no controversy about Cassel being the starter. Hell, we even went through 2 seasons with only 2 QB's on the roster and one of those QB's was Palko!

now we have a head coach walking the line on tampering charges talking about getting another QB and the 'cone of silence' people talking to high profile QB's at the combine.

I don't know what's going to happen but the shift in attitude about the QB position is obvious.
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Old 02-27-2012, 11:05 PM   #67
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I fully expect one of them to take this subject... quite possibly headline and all... and report on it.

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Old 02-27-2012, 11:12 PM   #68
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A new QB or a new starting QB? Big difference. Replacing Palko is one thing, replacing Cassel is another.
The names they are talking about bringing in have a chance to win a competition.

I'm going on record as saying that I don't think Cassel will start next year's opener.
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Here's the facts:

- The Chiefs have never touched the subject of acquiring a new starting Quarterback outside of Matt before this offseason.... last week, even.

- Pioli reiterated that there "will be competition at the quarterback position. (That being said, he also said that Brodie, Thigpen, and Palko were 'competition' in the past).

- Romeo has spoken out twice in the past week about potential game changers like RG3, and Peyton Manning. He has also beat the drum for Kyle Orton and what he did last season.

- A story leaked last week regarding the Chiefs' rumored interest in acquiring Peyton Manning should he be available.

- The Chiefs interviewed the top 3 QB's at the combine (Luck, RG3, Tannehill).

- On the front page of the official Chiefs website, there is an interview with Greg Cosell, who essentially says that the Chiefs can't fully compete with Cassel at the helm. Again, this is on the Chiefs website...


Those facts considered, it appears that the organization might be attempting to untie the knot between Cassel and the starting QB spot. This is a major shift from the past. It brings to light a few questions:

1. Why?
- To win the media/public back?
- To attract/retain potential free agents that don't want to play with Cassel? (Bowe, TE's, Oline)

2 Why NOW?
- What strategic advantage does it pose to float these thoughts to the public?
- Does this hurt our case in FA or the draft, by showing our hand early?

And finally,

3. Will Pioli actually sack up and make a game-changing move?
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Pioli has two years to save his ass. Bringing in a rookie QB throws a monkey wrench in that.
Yeah, because we all know you can't sign a free agent QB and draft a rookie one as well.


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No. This is just like reading your horoscope or seeing jesus in a piece of toast. Seeing something that is not there.
Is it also like not seeing something right in front of your ****ing face?


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There is no game that needs to be played. Pioli can sign Orton anytime he wants. Or draft a QB. Or sign Manning. In fact, giving public signals seems contrary to Pioli's M.O. It's more likely that the talk is propaganda for the fans' sake.
Will any of you simpletons ever come to realize a contract requires TWO PARTIES WHO WANT TO SIGN IT?


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BS. No way Pioli admits his mistake.
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Same here. There are two ways to acquire a QB.

1. How the winners do it, through the draft

2. The Chiefs Way. (Sign a free agent)

I also hang my hopes on him choosing option #1.
I guess you forgot #3: BOTH


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Some rookie who has no chance of being ready within 3 years.
See above.
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Chiefs will have a new qb next year. Mark it down.
I agree. After we finish 2-14 in 2012, Clark fires everyone, we get a new GM and HC next year, and they bring in a rookie QB.
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****ing meow, this board is so chockful of morons it has become almost unreadable...
We will miss the fear based paranoid rants.
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In my superstar on madden playing as baldwin, orton was starting and cassel wasnt on the roster.

Im pretty sure its a sign from god. Trust me bros, its happening.
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I agree. After we finish 2-14 in 2012, Clark fires everyone, we get a new GM and HC next year, and they bring in a rookie QB.
You just gave yourself away dude.
I was actually buying it for a while.
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