just more speculation about RGIII

[tooge]

Well, at least they mention the chiefs


Robert Griffin trade rumors already spinning out of control
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on February 28, 2012, 4:04 PM EST

APForget the Combine. Forget free agency. Robert Griffin III trade chatter dominates the NFL discussion these days.

And it’s still February.

Perhaps Rams COO Kevin Demoff is right: It’s getting less crazy to imagine a deal could be completed before free agency. We’ve read and heard an unprecedented amount of trade rumors about the No. 2 overall pick for this time of year.

Let’s go over the latest:

1. Mike Jones of the Washington Post writes the Redskins would give up the No. 6 overall pick and next year’s first round pick in addition to multiple picks in the mid-to-upper rounds of the draft. Consider this the starting point for negotiations.

The Rams are reportedly looking for a similar package to the one San Diego netted for Eli Manning: Two firsts (including the No. 4 overall pick), a third- and fifth-round pick. The Redskins sound ready to meet this demand.

2. Texas A&M prospect Ryan Tannehill is watching the Griffin talk closely. Jones believes the Redskins would take Tannehill at No. 6 overal if they can’t get Griffin.

3. Terry Pluto of the Cleveland Plain-Dealer believes the Browns will ultimately have to give up three first-round picks in order to land Griffin. Do I hear four, Redskins? (This reminds us of a classic article by the Onion.)

4. Demoff told Peter King of SI.com that the Rams received a feeler from a team “you would never expect.” Does Kansas City count? If not, we’ll roll with Philadelphia as our irresponsible guess for a mystery team. Enter your pick below.

5. The St. Louis Post-Dispatch considers the Redskins the early favorite to land Griffin. This sounds true based on all the reports, plus Mike Shanahan’s close relationship with Jeff Fisher.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I think the point to be made is that Eli and Luck would at least be a head-to-head for the #1 pick. RGIII would not even come close to competing with either of those guys.

He has come close to competing with either one of those guys. He's the #2 pick. that's pretty damn close.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by Brock

He has come close to competing with either one of those guys. He's the #2 pick. that's pretty damn close.

I think he could top Eli. Reality is though, it's not a fair fight. He's not only competing with the player, but the "legend" they have become. Eli for his obvious name recognition, and Luck for what he has done. Also, there is a stigma attached to a QB who can run, even if you like that, it will scare you a little.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

So my question is......what would be the feeling about Pioli if he:

1. Let Carr walk.
2. Franchised Bowe
3. Traded Bowe, our 1st this year and a 1st next year for RGIII.

I would feel like we FINALLY took the correct FIRST STEP.

IMO, the only situation I like better is Manning + Tannehill.

[WhiteWhale]

Ummm... Based on Shanahan's close relationship with Fisher?

Are they insinuating that there will be collusion? You don't get ahead by cutting your buddies good deals. IF the skins get the pick, they'll have to put out the best offer.

[Buckweath]

Originally Posted by BossChief

I would feel like we FINALLY took the correct FIRST STEP.

IMO, the only situation I like better is Manning + Tannehill.

I really don't see the Chiefs signing Manning and then drafting Tannehill. If you're going to get Manning, you have to give him the best supporting cast RIGHT NOW, which means drafting a Trent Richardson or an Olineman in the first round this year.

[notorious]

I think we should just play it safe and use our picks to upgrade our weak positions and build depth.

Trading picks for an unproven QB is stupid. You should only use picks to trade for proven veterans.

It has worked great in the past, so why wouldn't it work again?

[Chief_For_Life58]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

So my question is......what would be the feeling about Pioli if he:

1. Let Carr walk.
2. Franchised Bowe
3. Traded Bowe, our 1st this year and a 1st next year for RGIII.

the thig is is that the rams wouldnt even want to go for that. why pay dbowe when they can draft blackman.
there is no way we get rg3. hes awesome. Id love to see him in a chiefs jersey but there is no way hes playing for us next year. 3 other teams have much more to offer the rams then us.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by Chief_For_Life58

the thig is is that the rams wouldnt even want to go for that. why pay dbowe when they can draft blackman.
there is no way we get rg3. hes awesome. Id love to see him in a chiefs jersey but there is no way hes playing for us next year. 3 other teams have much more to offer the rams then us.

Because they would know exactly what they have in Bowe, who is a front-line WR, despite what some on CP try to suggest.

[VAChief]

Originally Posted by TRR

KC would have to give up the entire draft to get RGIII. There isn't a player worth that much...and it truly is a gamble.

You can count KC out of the RGIII sweepstakes. There is just no way Pioli would be willing to give that much up and rightly so.
Posted via Mobile Device

You are discounting who is drafting, I would trade our whole 2009 draft for Matthew Stafford. The big draft day busts have been primarily RB's. That is foolish, someone you think is a franchise QB is worth considering particularly if you have a young team that you can patch holes through free agency. You aren't going to get a franchise QB in free agency.

[Epic Fail 007]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

But they did not trade the entire draft,think.

[VAChief]

Originally Posted by Chief_For_Life58

the thig is is that the rams wouldnt even want to go for that. why pay dbowe when they can draft blackman.
there is no way we get rg3. hes awesome. Id love to see him in a chiefs jersey but there is no way hes playing for us next year. 3 other teams have much more to offer the rams then us.

It doesn't hurt to ask, throw the whole draft at them. If they don't bite, nothing lost. If they do, you immediately energize your fan base and hopefully your team. If we had the history of solid mid round drafting successes recently it would different, but for the most part we are hit or miss on rounds 1, 2, and 3 as it is...even if RGIII flops, it doesn't set us much further back than we already are. I don't think it would be enough to give up our whole draft, just that it shouldn't be discounted as an option to offer.

[MahiMike]

Peyton is better and cheaper!

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by MahiMike

Peyton is better and cheaper!

That's only because the neck is extra.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

No idea how that relates to Baldwin, who has shown precious little in KC, other than a great catch that was called back.

As for Jackson/Sanchez, it could be that TJ ends up being the better of these two. However, once Pioli made the move to Cassel, I think the selection should have been Raji, and it should have been a no-brainer.

last year:

Tyson Jackson > BJ Raji

Doesn't excuse him from missing on guys like Orakpo, though.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by BossChief

last year:

Tyson Jackson > BJ Raji

Doesn't excuse him from missing on guys like Orakpo, though.

I understand what Kenpom says, and I don't care. Relative value and worth, it's not even close. Raji + Houston would be two very fine additions.