Chiefs Dolphins weapons better than what the chiefs have? - Page 3

swayy07 · 03-08-2012, 01:19 PM

im really confused right now in almost all of the articles ive read of the past few days about 95% of them have said that the dolphins players on offense are better then anything that the chiefs have on the roster right now.....am i missing something or is this just media bias against a smaller market team in the chiefs?

Chiefnj2 · 03-08-2012, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Are you just here to troll? Wtf is wrong with you these last few days?

I disagree that the team as good as people think. Look at the Texans. They suffered huge injuries and didn't go into the crapper like KC. Teams that have talent can adjust.

The Dawg · 03-08-2012, 01:30 PM

This

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Originally Posted by H5N1

hmmm....

jamaal charles
dexter mccluster
tony moeaki
dwayne bowe
steve breaston
jon baldwin

miami...

reggie bush
daniel thomas (I'll give the chiefs the edge on RBs if charles is 90% and we get an adequate backup/pounder)
anthony fasano... I'll call it a push, maybe slight homeristic lean to moeaki
brandon marshall
davone bess
(who the hell is their third receiver?)...I'll give us the nod in WRs... bowe and marshall are pretty damned close, and our 2 and 3 push their 2 and 3's shit in.

the media is high.

KChiefer · 03-08-2012, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

I'll take Breaston and Baldwin over Bess and Hartline.

Again. If Wayne comes with Manning, it's a moot point.

And let's not forget what Miami did to us on both sides of the ball last year.

Carlota69 · 03-08-2012, 01:32 PM

When will Manning throw?
Posted by Mike Florio on March 8, 2012, 2:19 PM EST

Peyton Manning has had his freedom for more than a day. His camp has been leaking all sorts of details to the media, including teams interested in acquiring Manning’s services and his timetable for picking a new one.

But there has been nothing regarding when — or if — he’ll be showing a team that he can throw the ball well enough to justify a significant financial investment, along with placement at the top of the depth chart.

Surely, no team will offer him a contract without seeing him throw in person, and not through a grainy, 27-second YouTube video. So why isn’t he at a team facility right now, showing what he can do?

Some in league circles wonder whether he’s simply not ready to throw, despite his readiness to join a new team. If that’s the case, all it takes is one owner (cough . . . Stephen Ross . . . cough) sufficiently desperate to sell tickets now to take the requirement that he prove his abilities off the table.

In the end, if Manning chooses Miami, that could be the reason for it. Ross could be the only owner who’ll pay him millions, sight unseen.

Other than, of course, Jim Irsay last August.

Could that be their biggest weapon? Signing him sight unseen?

KChiefer · 03-08-2012, 01:34 PM

One sure thing we have is that getting to the post season will be easier through the AFC West than the AFC East.

Mile High Mania · 03-08-2012, 01:44 PM

Comparing the two teams...

Marshall is the better WR, even if only slightly better than Bowe.
Charles (healthy) is the better overall RB.
Moeaki and Fasano are a tie... only 1 season for Moeaki at this point.

As a group - Bush/Thomas > Charles & Company.
As a group - Marshall / Bess / Hartline > Bowe / Breaston / Baldwin

ToxSocks · 03-08-2012, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

I disagree that the team as good as people think. Look at the Texans. They suffered huge injuries and didn't go into the crapper like KC. Teams that have talent can adjust.

They lost Arian Foster for how many games? Did their passing game not suffer when they lost Schaub and Johnson?

How difficult was their schedule again?

ToxSocks · 03-08-2012, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Comparing the two teams...

Marshall is the better WR, even if only slightly better than Bowe.
Charles (healthy) is the better overall RB.
Moeaki and Fasano are a tie... only 1 season for Moeaki at this point.

As a group - Bush/Thomas > Charles & Company.
As a group - Marshall / Bess / Hartline > Bowe / Breaston / Baldwin

I'm just going to go ahead and disagree with you about the Receivers. Bess and Hartline have been around long enough to know they suck. Breaston is just as good, if not better than either of those guys and Baldwin has Marshall like potential.

If the Chiefs land a Back to compliment Charles, then the Chiefs would get the nod at HB as well.

**BossChief** · 03-08-2012, 01:50 PM

He goes to Miami, they might still miss the playoffs in that division.

Ebolapox · 03-08-2012, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

I'm just going to go ahead and disagree with you about the Receivers. Bess and Hartline have been around long enough to know they suck. Breaston is just as good, if not better than either of those guys and Baldwin has Marshall like potential.

If the Chiefs land a Back to compliment Charles, then the Chiefs would get the nod at HB as well.

yep.

**RealSNR** · 03-08-2012, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

I disagree that the team as good as people think. Look at the Texans. They suffered huge injuries and didn't go into the crapper like KC. Teams that have talent can adjust.

1. TJ Yates > Anything the Chiefs started this season except for Orton. I know he's a 5th round rookie and all, and those guys are cancerAIDS, but still

2. Haley/Muir/Other reeruns running the gameplan, the playcalling, and the overall strategy. Kubes is FAAAR greater than these assholes. And yes, when we're dealing with these kinds of differences, this shit really DOES matter

3. Texans OLine >> KC's. About the only advantage we had over them was Asamoah. Maybe Albert towards the end of the season.

4. Arian Foster vs. Battle/Jones/McCluster. Must we go into this?

So wanna try that again?

Mile High Mania · 03-08-2012, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

I'm just going to go ahead and disagree with you about the Receivers. Bess and Hartline have been around long enough to know they suck. Breaston is just as good, if not better than either of those guys and Baldwin has Marshall like potential.

If the Chiefs land a Back to compliment Charles, then the Chiefs would get the nod at HB as well.

There's nothing that Baldwin has done to warrant that yet...and I'm not saying their 3X better at WR, but I do give them the edge.

Potential wise, sure .. they have the potential to be the best in the league, but they're not yet. Miami WRs aren't the best in the league.

I'm just judging them as they are now.

Red Dawg · 03-08-2012, 01:57 PM

Manning going to Miami would be stupid for him to do. Brady and Rex will stop him from getting back to the SB. Our division could be ownable for him but only in KC red.

**RealSNR** · 03-08-2012, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Comparing the two teams...

Marshall is the better WR, even if only slightly better than Bowe.
Charles (healthy) is the better overall RB.
Moeaki and Fasano are a tie... only 1 season for Moeaki at this point.

As a group - Bush/Thomas > Charles & Company.
As a group - Marshall / Bess / Hartline > Bowe / Breaston / Baldwin

I totally disagree about Marshall but in the interest of avoiding unwinnable arguments, I'll give the slightest edge to Marshall. Just barely.

Moeaki/Fasano- I'll even give Fasano the edge here.

Bush/Thomas, though? Please. If the Chiefs draft a RB (doesn't matter who or in which round) they instantly have the better pair.

Marshall/Bess/Hartline? You're basically saying Bess and Hartline > Breaston and Baldwin. That's absolutely ludicrous. If you were Peyton Manning you'd seriously rather throw to Brett ****ing Hartline than a stud with the potential of Jon Baldwin?

Chiefnj2 · 03-08-2012, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

1. TJ Yates > Anything the Chiefs started this season except for Orton. I know he's a 5th round rookie and all, and those guys are cancerAIDS, but still

2. Haley/Muir/Other reeruns running the gameplan, the playcalling, and the overall strategy. Kubes is FAAAR greater than these assholes. And yes, when we're dealing with these kinds of differences, this shit really DOES matter

3. Texans OLine >> KC's. About the only advantage we had over them was Asamoah. Maybe Albert towards the end of the season.

4. Arian Foster vs. Battle/Jones/McCluster. Must we go into this?

So wanna try that again?

The point is that the Texans didn't fall apart when going to their 5th round QB, or Johnson missing half the season, or Foster 3 games, etc. Why -talent and coaching. KC fell apart and was wildly inconsistent all year. KC doesn't have the talent people thinks it does. The majority of CPers think the Chiefs are heads and tails better than the team that beat them by 20+ points last year.

03-08-2012, 01:19 PM
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Carlota69 MVP Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Las Vegas Casino cash: $9925282	When will Manning throw? Posted by Mike Florio on March 8, 2012, 2:19 PM EST Peyton Manning has had his freedom for more than a day. His camp has been leaking all sorts of details to the media, including teams interested in acquiring Manning’s services and his timetable for picking a new one. But there has been nothing regarding when — or if — he’ll be showing a team that he can throw the ball well enough to justify a significant financial investment, along with placement at the top of the depth chart. Surely, no team will offer him a contract without seeing him throw in person, and not through a grainy, 27-second YouTube video. So why isn’t he at a team facility right now, showing what he can do? Some in league circles wonder whether he’s simply not ready to throw, despite his readiness to join a new team. If that’s the case, all it takes is one owner (cough . . . Stephen Ross . . . cough) sufficiently desperate to sell tickets now to take the requirement that he prove his abilities off the table. In the end, if Manning chooses Miami, that could be the reason for it. Ross could be the only owner who’ll pay him millions, sight unseen. Other than, of course, Jim Irsay last August. Could that be their biggest weapon? Signing him sight unseen? __________________ Women want someone who can make them laugh and protect them. So basically a Clown Ninja.
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