Mayock says Poe reminds him of Haloti Ngata

[buddha]

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning

Memphis DT Dontari Poe wasn't consistently dominant on a game to game basis, but he had plenty of moments where he flashed big time ability.

https://twitter.com/#!/MelKiperESPN/...03131057438721

I view KC as a possible destination for Dontari Poe.

https://twitter.com/#!/MelKiperESPN/...03459832143872

Thanks for the link, but that's not good enough for the NFL. KC won't be able to coax it out of him if he didn't show it consistently at the college level.

[BigChiefFan]

Originally Posted by buddha

Thanks for the link, but that's not good enough for the NFL. KC won't be able to coax it out of him if he didn't show it consistently at the college level.

I've been watching alot of film on him and he's constantly double-teamed and at times, triple-teamed and he still pushes the pocket. He's alot better than he gets credit for around here.

His upside potential is too much to pass on, especially at a huge hole for us. He's slated to go right at 11, so it isn't a reach. He's got Wilfork potential. Boom or bust, but the upside is having a dominant NT for the next decade plus.

[buddha]

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

I've been watching alot of film on him and he's constantly double-teamed and at times, triple-teamed and he still pushes the pocket. He's alot better than he gets credit for around here.

His upside potential is too much to pass on, especially at a huge hole for us. He's slated to go right at 11, so it isn't a reach. He's got Wilfork potential. Boom or bust, but the upside is having a dominant NT for the next decade plus.

Big Chief Fan...you realize that you just described Ryan Simms. Simms was actually better coming out of college than Poe.

You don't draft at #11 based on potential...not if you want to build a winner. This isn't fantasy football. Careers are on the line here.

Proven production is what smart teams draft in the first round. Poe draws double teams because NTs draw double teams by design. He looks like he should be better than he is, right? But he ISN'T.

[Blick]

Originally Posted by buddha

Big Chief Fan...you realize that you just described Ryan Simms. Simms was actually better coming out of college than Poe.

You don't draft at #11 based on potential...not if you want to build a winner. This isn't fantasy football. Careers are on the line here.

Proven production is what smart teams draft in the first round. Poe draws double teams because NTs draw double teams by design. He looks like he should be better than he is, right? But he ISN'T.

Sims looked good playing on the same line with Julius Peppers. I can't name anybody else on Poe's Memphis defense, and I'm willing to bet a lot of others couldn't either.

Poe is bigger, stronger, and more athletic than Sims. Hell, he's bigger, stronger, and faster than B.J. Raji.

Yes, he should've dominated his competition. It's a red flag that he didn't.

But, he seems coachable. If Romeo can coach him up, he could be exactly what we need at the nose.

[suds79]

Originally Posted by Blick

Sims looked good playing on the same line with Julius Peppers. I can't name anybody else on Poe's Memphis defense, and I'm willing to bet a lot of others couldn't either.

Poe is bigger, stronger, and more athletic than Sims. Hell, he's bigger, stronger, and faster than B.J. Raji.

Yes, he should've dominated his competition. It's a red flag that he didn't.

But, he seems coachable. If Romeo can coach him up, he could be exactly what we need at the nose.

No matter how you slice it, you'd be spending the #11 pick on a guy who flat out didn't play like a 1st rounder and was not a dominate college player. He's only going that high because of his combine.

Can't do it. There are other NTs out there. Ta'amu, Chapman. And a lot less risk. Shoot at least those guys during their college careers have shown to be better players.

[buddha]

Originally Posted by Blick

Sims looked good playing on the same line with Julius Peppers. I can't name anybody else on Poe's Memphis defense, and I'm willing to bet a lot of others couldn't either.

Poe is bigger, stronger, and more athletic than Sims. Hell, he's bigger, stronger, and faster than B.J. Raji.

Yes, he should've dominated his competition. It's a red flag that he didn't.

But, he seems coachable. If Romeo can coach him up, he could be exactly what we need at the nose.

Every bad pick starts out with, "if xxxx can coach him up, he could be exactly what we need at xxxxx".

Yes...he should have dominated his competition. He didn't. End of story.

Put another way, how often do mediocre defensive linemen in college become star defensive linemen in the NFL? I can't think of one example.

BTW, you can "coach up" technique. You can't do it with desire, motivation or motor.