Fat E's Mock Draft - Page 2

Fat Elvis · 04-12-2012, 10:07 PM

Here is my 2012 mock draft. I know a lot of you will hate it, but oh well.

1.11- David DeCastro G, Stanford--Drafting a Guard at 11 is just painful for me but De Castro is something special. It isn't just that he is going to be, in all likelihood, a GREAT guard, he is also a very cerebral player. When interviewed, he had an understanding of the Stanford offense that rivaled Luck. I think that will be important for the Chiefs O-line in establishing both running and throwing lanes if we are going to maximize the talent that do have; I don't think Mark Castle is long for the Red and Gold. We will be getting a QBOTF either this year or next. Tannenhill will be gone by 11 (thankfully) and I think the sleeper of the draft can be picked up later on.

2.44- Alameda Ta'amu NT, Washington--The Chiefs finally get thier NT which will really shore up the D and make it one of the top (if not the top) defenses in the NFL--in 2013. Gotta give the guy a year or so to really develop into the position.

3.75- Brandon Taylor S, LSU-- Here is a guy who will really create a great combo with Eric Berry. You can really disguise a defense with these two because either can play SS or FS. Taylor needs to work on his ball skills, but he can really lay the wood and is plenty fast for a safety.

4.106- Russell Wilson QB, Wisconsin-- I know just about everyone will hate this pick, but this guy has IT. Yes he is short; give the guy platform cleats if it makes you feel better. The fact of the matter is he is EXTREMELY accurate, has a rocket for an arm and is a very smart QB. His lack of size has never hurt him and if you look at the Badger O-Line, it is pretty obvious that he has no problem seeing the field even though the guys in front of him tower over him. This guy will be the steal of the draft-I guarentee it.

5.137- Vontaze Burfect ILB, Az State-- This guy is a total headcase. It is why his draft prospect has fallen so far. Absolute nutjob. And an idiot. But he hits really, really hard. Really hard. Crennell has dealt with his fair share of idiots and will command his respect. I think Crennell can whip him into shape and make him a coachable prospect. If Burfect can play with some semblance of control, he can be a terror.

6.170- Terrance Ganaway RB, Baylor-- Big guy. Can be a bruiser between the tackles. Will be a liability in passing situations since he really hasn't had to block with RG3's speed. Good depth for a low pick.

7.200- Jacquies Smith DE/OLB, Mizzou-- Good leader; can get to the QB. Could provide some nice depth.

7.220- Josh Oglesby OL, Wisconsin-- Huge guy. 6'7" 338 lbs. Was very consistent on a good Badger O-line.

Rip away folks. If you don't like a pick, at least tell us why you don't like it and who you would pick in place of the person you don't like.

Fat E

tredadda · 04-15-2012, 06:51 PM

Burfict is going to be a boom or bust player. If he is properly coached and gets his head on straight he will be the steal of the draft. If not, he will be a wasted talent. I think he will get drafted I just don't know how far he will fall before a team takes a flyer out on his talent.

O.city · 04-15-2012, 07:09 PM

I'd take him 6 or 7 and just put him on special teams.

**buddha** · 04-15-2012, 08:44 PM

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I'd take him 6 or 7 and just put him on special teams.

This. I am thinking the same thing. I would bet that little psycho would be nasty on coverage teams.

Saccopoo · 04-15-2012, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by buddha

This. I am thinking the same thing. I would bet that little psycho would be nasty on coverage teams.

He's too slow to be on kick coverages.

Frosty · 04-16-2012, 09:02 AM

I would find it funny as hell if Burfict goes undrafted and doesn't make a team. The guy is a piece of shit.

Simplicity · 04-16-2012, 12:37 PM

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No offense intended, but that is the worst draft - ever.

Burfict sucks. He shows up at the combine completely out of shape, slow as molasses in the winter and with a bad attitude. The 'niks are correct. No one is going to draft him and he'll be lucky to play in Canada. He was horrible last season for ASU.

DeCastro is a guard. We've already taken two first team All-American guards the last two years. Are you people ****ing stupid or something?

Wilson? Seriously? The guy measured 5'10 and something at the combine. And people bitch about Kellen Moore, who was a legit 6'0".

Ta'amu didn't do shit against half the guys he played against. Got washed out at the senior bowl. Looked bad at the combine. He's not that good. Seriously.

Oglesby doesn't fit the zone system. And he got worked over by most speed rushers. Waste of even a seventh rounder.

Horrible draft.

Sorry. Didn't mean to be overly critical, but that is one total shit sandwich of a draft.

You sir should be sexually harassed by a starving aids monkey...

Saccopoo · 04-16-2012, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplicity

You sir should be sexually harassed by a starving aids monkey...

Eat poop noob.

Simplicity · 04-16-2012, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Eat poop noob.

Nice choice of vocabulary... Home schooled, right?

Saccopoo · 04-16-2012, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplicity

Nice choice of vocabulary... Home schooled, right?

Masticate feces you ultracrepidarian.

Better?

Simplicity · 04-16-2012, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Masticate feces you ultracrepidarian.

Better?

Better.

Fat Elvis · 04-19-2012, 10:01 PM

While I still like the first mock I posted, another mock that I could live with--especially considering the QBs in our division and our lack of safety play with Berry out--would be one that drafted two safeties. I'm sure a lot of folks would say, "Wut?", but Sabby Piscawhatshisname made a beleiver out of me concerning our need for more (and better) safeties. I also think that the role and importance of the safety is being redefined as the NFL transitions into a pass first league. I think three safety sets will become the norm-especially in the AFCW. Good safeties are versitile; they can provide good run support, good coverage and good pass rushing/blitzing. With that in mind, here is the Fat E Mock draft 2.0 Safety Love.

1.11 Mark Barron, S- Alabama- Big Bruiser. Best safety in the draft. Teamed with Eric Berry it would be kind of like having Ed Reed and Troy Palamalu on the same team.

2.44 Josh Chapman, NT- Alabama- I think Ta'amu may have a higher ceiling, but Chapman is a known commodity. An absolute fireplug in the middle. Doesn't move that much, but doesn't get moved either; that is what the NT in this scheme is used for-eating blockers. The Chiefs have already talked to him and no one can deny his heart and determination. A Pioli type of pick.

3.75 Brandon Taylor, S-LSU-Here is a guy who will really create a great combo with Eric Berry and Mark Barron. You can really disguise a defense with these guys because he can play SS or FS. Taylor needs to work on his ball skills, but he can really lay the wood and is plenty fast for a safety.

4.106 Dale Moss, WR-South Dakota State- Small school athelete with eyepopping pro day numbers. Huge upside coming from a basketball background so he should have good hands. Extreme manuverability, worth the risk to see if it translates to the pros. Just imagine Bowe (6'2: 221), Moss (6'3.5" 213), Baldwin (6'4" 228) and Moeaki (6'3" 252)--good luck covering those guys.

5.146 Russell Wilson, QB- Wisconsin- I know just about everyone will hate this pick, but this guy has IT. Yes he is short; give the guy platform cleats if it makes you feel better. The fact of the matter is he is EXTREMELY accurate, has a rocket for an arm and is a very smart QB. His lack of size has never hurt him and if you look at the Badger O-Line, it is pretty obvious that he has no problem seeing the field even though the guys in front of him tower over him. This guy will be the steal of the draft-I guarentee it. I can only hope the guy is still there in the 5th round; he'd make Dick Stanzi seek employment at the local Footlocker.

6.170 Ronald Leary, OL- Memphis- Played all over the line, could be good depth anywhere, or he could take Lilja's spot this year or next.

7.200- Jacquies Smith DE/OLB, Mizzou-- Good leader; can get to the QB. Could provide some nice depth.

7.220- Josh Oglesby OL, Wisconsin-- Huge guy. 6'7" 338 lbs. Was very consistent on a good Badger O-line.

There you have it. Rip away. I like both of the drafts I posted. Doesn't really matter, until cards are submitted next week, we are all just pissing in the wind.

Mecca · 04-19-2012, 10:02 PM

That first one is very safe...other than Burfict who I think is worth a flyer.

**bevischief** · 04-20-2012, 11:39 AM

Like your 2nd a lot better except for the 7th rounder he doesn't fit the zone blocking scheme.

Dmello12 · 04-20-2012, 11:44 AM

I would rather pick up Barron and have a top notch secondary than a LB or 5 tech. passing on us with Barron Berry and lewis plus our corners would be very difficult. This pick is just a sexy one to me. Even though i do think we will be picking a guard at 11 which is far from sexy but it might just be the safest pick

saphojunkie · 04-20-2012, 11:45 AM

I love the first draft, and it is 100% possible. I mean, I wouldn't change a thing. Mayyyyybe I'd consider Cousins over Wilson, but I'm with you that the kid is going to defy the odds.

Love the Ganaway pick, too.

What pisses me off is that this draft requires no help from other teams. Each player should be available when we pick, so why not do it? Out of this draft we get:

1. Rock-solid offensive line for years to come.
2. A massive nose tackle to free up DJ.
3. Competition at the ILB spot for Belcher
4. Safety depth (huge need)
5. OL depth
6. Developmental QB with a rocket arm and razor mind.
7. Young RB to keep the wear and tear off Charles.

Perfect.

04-12-2012, 10:07 PM
Fat Elvis Sexiest Athlete Join Date: Apr 2001 Casino cash: $-2028075	Fat E's Mock Draft Here is my 2012 mock draft. I know a lot of you will hate it, but oh well. 1.11- David DeCastro G, Stanford--Drafting a Guard at 11 is just painful for me but De Castro is something special. It isn't just that he is going to be, in all likelihood, a GREAT guard, he is also a very cerebral player. When interviewed, he had an understanding of the Stanford offense that rivaled Luck. I think that will be important for the Chiefs O-line in establishing both running and throwing lanes if we are going to maximize the talent that do have; I don't think Mark Castle is long for the Red and Gold. We will be getting a QBOTF either this year or next. Tannenhill will be gone by 11 (thankfully) and I think the sleeper of the draft can be picked up later on. 2.44- Alameda Ta'amu NT, Washington--The Chiefs finally get thier NT which will really shore up the D and make it one of the top (if not the top) defenses in the NFL--in 2013. Gotta give the guy a year or so to really develop into the position. 3.75- Brandon Taylor S, LSU-- Here is a guy who will really create a great combo with Eric Berry. You can really disguise a defense with these two because either can play SS or FS. Taylor needs to work on his ball skills, but he can really lay the wood and is plenty fast for a safety. 4.106- Russell Wilson QB, Wisconsin-- I know just about everyone will hate this pick, but this guy has IT. Yes he is short; give the guy platform cleats if it makes you feel better. The fact of the matter is he is EXTREMELY accurate, has a rocket for an arm and is a very smart QB. His lack of size has never hurt him and if you look at the Badger O-Line, it is pretty obvious that he has no problem seeing the field even though the guys in front of him tower over him. This guy will be the steal of the draft-I guarentee it. 5.137- Vontaze Burfect ILB, Az State-- This guy is a total headcase. It is why his draft prospect has fallen so far. Absolute nutjob. And an idiot. But he hits really, really hard. Really hard. Crennell has dealt with his fair share of idiots and will command his respect. I think Crennell can whip him into shape and make him a coachable prospect. If Burfect can play with some semblance of control, he can be a terror. 6.170- Terrance Ganaway RB, Baylor-- Big guy. Can be a bruiser between the tackles. Will be a liability in passing situations since he really hasn't had to block with RG3's speed. Good depth for a low pick. 7.200- Jacquies Smith DE/OLB, Mizzou-- Good leader; can get to the QB. Could provide some nice depth. 7.220- Josh Oglesby OL, Wisconsin-- Huge guy. 6'7" 338 lbs. Was very consistent on a good Badger O-line. Rip away folks. If you don't like a pick, at least tell us why you don't like it and who you would pick in place of the person you don't like. Fat E
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04-15-2012, 06:51 PM	#16
tredadda Three-Pat Join Date: May 2011 Location: Colorado Springs Casino cash: $-1934947	Burfict is going to be a boom or bust player. If he is properly coached and gets his head on straight he will be the steal of the draft. If not, he will be a wasted talent. I think he will get drafted I just don't know how far he will fall before a team takes a flyer out on his talent.
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04-15-2012, 07:09 PM	#17
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04-16-2012, 09:02 AM	#20
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04-19-2012, 10:01 PM	#26
Fat Elvis Sexiest Athlete Join Date: Apr 2001 Casino cash: $-2028075	While I still like the first mock I posted, another mock that I could live with--especially considering the QBs in our division and our lack of safety play with Berry out--would be one that drafted two safeties. I'm sure a lot of folks would say, "Wut?", but Sabby Piscawhatshisname made a beleiver out of me concerning our need for more (and better) safeties. I also think that the role and importance of the safety is being redefined as the NFL transitions into a pass first league. I think three safety sets will become the norm-especially in the AFCW. Good safeties are versitile; they can provide good run support, good coverage and good pass rushing/blitzing. With that in mind, here is the Fat E Mock draft 2.0 Safety Love. 1.11 Mark Barron, S- Alabama- Big Bruiser. Best safety in the draft. Teamed with Eric Berry it would be kind of like having Ed Reed and Troy Palamalu on the same team. 2.44 Josh Chapman, NT- Alabama- I think Ta'amu may have a higher ceiling, but Chapman is a known commodity. An absolute fireplug in the middle. Doesn't move that much, but doesn't get moved either; that is what the NT in this scheme is used for-eating blockers. The Chiefs have already talked to him and no one can deny his heart and determination. A Pioli type of pick. 3.75 Brandon Taylor, S-LSU-Here is a guy who will really create a great combo with Eric Berry and Mark Barron. You can really disguise a defense with these guys because he can play SS or FS. Taylor needs to work on his ball skills, but he can really lay the wood and is plenty fast for a safety. 4.106 Dale Moss, WR-South Dakota State- Small school athelete with eyepopping pro day numbers. Huge upside coming from a basketball background so he should have good hands. Extreme manuverability, worth the risk to see if it translates to the pros. Just imagine Bowe (6'2: 221), Moss (6'3.5" 213), Baldwin (6'4" 228) and Moeaki (6'3" 252)--good luck covering those guys. 5.146 Russell Wilson, QB- Wisconsin- I know just about everyone will hate this pick, but this guy has IT. Yes he is short; give the guy platform cleats if it makes you feel better. The fact of the matter is he is EXTREMELY accurate, has a rocket for an arm and is a very smart QB. His lack of size has never hurt him and if you look at the Badger O-Line, it is pretty obvious that he has no problem seeing the field even though the guys in front of him tower over him. This guy will be the steal of the draft-I guarentee it. I can only hope the guy is still there in the 5th round; he'd make Dick Stanzi seek employment at the local Footlocker. 6.170 Ronald Leary, OL- Memphis- Played all over the line, could be good depth anywhere, or he could take Lilja's spot this year or next. 7.200- Jacquies Smith DE/OLB, Mizzou-- Good leader; can get to the QB. Could provide some nice depth. 7.220- Josh Oglesby OL, Wisconsin-- Huge guy. 6'7" 338 lbs. Was very consistent on a good Badger O-line. There you have it. Rip away. I like both of the drafts I posted. Doesn't really matter, until cards are submitted next week, we are all just pissing in the wind.
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04-19-2012, 10:02 PM	#27
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-662950	That first one is very safe...other than Burfict who I think is worth a flyer.
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04-20-2012, 11:39 AM	#28
bevischief .... Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somewhere Kansas Casino cash: $7739352 VARSITY	Like your 2nd a lot better except for the 7th rounder he doesn't fit the zone blocking scheme.
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04-20-2012, 11:44 AM	#29
Dmello12 Starter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Lawrence Casino cash: $10008180	I would rather pick up Barron and have a top notch secondary than a LB or 5 tech. passing on us with Barron Berry and lewis plus our corners would be very difficult. This pick is just a sexy one to me. Even though i do think we will be picking a guard at 11 which is far from sexy but it might just be the safest pick
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04-20-2012, 11:45 AM	#30
saphojunkie MVP Join Date: Aug 2011 Casino cash: $2216550	I love the first draft, and it is 100% possible. I mean, I wouldn't change a thing. Mayyyyybe I'd consider Cousins over Wilson, but I'm with you that the kid is going to defy the odds. Love the Ganaway pick, too. What pisses me off is that this draft requires no help from other teams. Each player should be available when we pick, so why not do it? Out of this draft we get: 1. Rock-solid offensive line for years to come. 2. A massive nose tackle to free up DJ. 3. Competition at the ILB spot for Belcher 4. Safety depth (huge need) 5. OL depth 6. Developmental QB with a rocket arm and razor mind. 7. Young RB to keep the wear and tear off Charles. Perfect. Last edited by saphojunkie; 04-20-2012 at 04:18 PM..
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