Fat E's Mock Draft - Page 3

Fat Elvis · 04-12-2012, 10:07 PM

Here is my 2012 mock draft. I know a lot of you will hate it, but oh well.

1.11- David DeCastro G, Stanford--Drafting a Guard at 11 is just painful for me but De Castro is something special. It isn't just that he is going to be, in all likelihood, a GREAT guard, he is also a very cerebral player. When interviewed, he had an understanding of the Stanford offense that rivaled Luck. I think that will be important for the Chiefs O-line in establishing both running and throwing lanes if we are going to maximize the talent that do have; I don't think Mark Castle is long for the Red and Gold. We will be getting a QBOTF either this year or next. Tannenhill will be gone by 11 (thankfully) and I think the sleeper of the draft can be picked up later on.

2.44- Alameda Ta'amu NT, Washington--The Chiefs finally get thier NT which will really shore up the D and make it one of the top (if not the top) defenses in the NFL--in 2013. Gotta give the guy a year or so to really develop into the position.

3.75- Brandon Taylor S, LSU-- Here is a guy who will really create a great combo with Eric Berry. You can really disguise a defense with these two because either can play SS or FS. Taylor needs to work on his ball skills, but he can really lay the wood and is plenty fast for a safety.

4.106- Russell Wilson QB, Wisconsin-- I know just about everyone will hate this pick, but this guy has IT. Yes he is short; give the guy platform cleats if it makes you feel better. The fact of the matter is he is EXTREMELY accurate, has a rocket for an arm and is a very smart QB. His lack of size has never hurt him and if you look at the Badger O-Line, it is pretty obvious that he has no problem seeing the field even though the guys in front of him tower over him. This guy will be the steal of the draft-I guarentee it.

5.137- Vontaze Burfect ILB, Az State-- This guy is a total headcase. It is why his draft prospect has fallen so far. Absolute nutjob. And an idiot. But he hits really, really hard. Really hard. Crennell has dealt with his fair share of idiots and will command his respect. I think Crennell can whip him into shape and make him a coachable prospect. If Burfect can play with some semblance of control, he can be a terror.

6.170- Terrance Ganaway RB, Baylor-- Big guy. Can be a bruiser between the tackles. Will be a liability in passing situations since he really hasn't had to block with RG3's speed. Good depth for a low pick.

7.200- Jacquies Smith DE/OLB, Mizzou-- Good leader; can get to the QB. Could provide some nice depth.

7.220- Josh Oglesby OL, Wisconsin-- Huge guy. 6'7" 338 lbs. Was very consistent on a good Badger O-line.

Rip away folks. If you don't like a pick, at least tell us why you don't like it and who you would pick in place of the person you don't like.

Fat E

Chiefnj2 · 04-20-2012, 11:53 AM

I like 1, 2, 3 and 6.

DJ's left nut · 04-20-2012, 01:40 PM

Hate that draft.

Taking Barron at all in the first is a waste and then to double up on safeties just further diminishes his value.

The 'arcade football' crowd has lost its damn mind. You don't need 3 high-value safeties to have a great defense; we'd have drafted 3 guys including 2 first rounders and have a 4th guy that's starting caliber. The NFL isn't going to be about loading as many hybrid athletes into the defensive backfield as possible. The league simply isn't going to let these safeties cover like you think they will. The PI flags are still going to be thrown on deep balls. The roughing flags are still coming out on hard hits. Coverage from the safety position has been largely neutered by the rules and is overrated as hell. The idea that we're going to deal with the pinball offenses in the league by just overloading safeties is ridiculous.

If you're going to go heavy at a spot on the defense, target the D-line. Take a guy like Mercilus or Brockers. The D-Line, namely getting interior push to prevent the short routes underneath, is going to be where games are won and lost for the foreseeable future, IMO. Chapman's a start, but if you're doubling down and burning 3 picks on defense you'd be better served to go Brockers, Still, Chapman. Or Brockers, Harrison Smith, Chapman. Or Mercilus, Ta'amu, Taylor, etc...

The trenches are where to focus on right now, IMO - not the safeties.

And we're reaching pretty badly on Chapman there, IMO.

Dmello12 · 04-20-2012, 02:49 PM

Brockers is being interviewed on ESPN right now, also showed his sports science episode

milkman · 04-21-2012, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Elvis

I also think that the role and importance of the safety is being redefined as the NFL transitions into a pass first league.

That's a trend setting thought right there.

Why I bet if I and a couple of others around here hadn't already been saying that for 3 years or more already, that it'd be a brand new idea.

milkman · 04-21-2012, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Hate that draft.

Taking Barron at all in the first is a waste and then to double up on safeties just further diminishes his value.

The 'arcade football' crowd has lost its damn mind. You don't need 3 high-value safeties to have a great defense; we'd have drafted 3 guys including 2 first rounders and have a 4th guy that's starting caliber. The NFL isn't going to be about loading as many hybrid athletes into the defensive backfield as possible. The league simply isn't going to let these safeties cover like you think they will. The PI flags are still going to be thrown on deep balls. The roughing flags are still coming out on hard hits. Coverage from the safety position has been largely neutered by the rules and is overrated as hell. The idea that we're going to deal with the pinball offenses in the league by just overloading safeties is ridiculous.

If you're going to go heavy at a spot on the defense, target the D-line. Take a guy like Mercilus or Brockers. The D-Line, namely getting interior push to prevent the short routes underneath, is going to be where games are won and lost for the foreseeable future, IMO. Chapman's a start, but if you're doubling down and burning 3 picks on defense you'd be better served to go Brockers, Still, Chapman. Or Brockers, Harrison Smith, Chapman. Or Mercilus, Ta'amu, Taylor, etc...

The trenches are where to focus on right now, IMO - not the safeties.

And we're reaching pretty badly on Chapman there, IMO.

Disagree strongly with you on the value of safety, as I disagree strongly with you on the value of guard.

I have a ton of respect for your opinions and take on things, but we just won't ever be on the same page on these positions.

I do appreciate and value your perspective, though.

Urc Burry · 04-21-2012, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Disagree strongly with you on the value of safety, as I disagree strongly with you on the value of guard.

I have a ton of respect for your opinions and take on things, but we just won't ever be on the same page on these positions.

I do appreciate and value your perspective, though.

Just curious, do you think pretty low of Kendrick Lewis or are you just really high on Barron? I thought Lewis has shown flashes and can become a solid starter for our team. He is just now going into his third year in which most players break out

milkman · 04-21-2012, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Urc Burry

Just curious, do you think pretty low of Kendrick Lewis or are you just really high on Barron? I thought Lewis has shown flashes and can become a solid starter for our team. He is just now going into his third year in which most players break out

I think Lewis is a solid center fielder type, but that's all he is and all he'll ever be.

**BossChief** · 04-21-2012, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Hate that draft.

Taking Barron at all in the first is a waste and then to double up on safeties just further diminishes his value.

The 'arcade football' crowd has lost its damn mind. You don't need 3 high-value safeties to have a great defense; we'd have drafted 3 guys including 2 first rounders and have a 4th guy that's starting caliber. The NFL isn't going to be about loading as many hybrid athletes into the defensive backfield as possible. The league simply isn't going to let these safeties cover like you think they will. The PI flags are still going to be thrown on deep balls. The roughing flags are still coming out on hard hits. Coverage from the safety position has been largely neutered by the rules and is overrated as hell. The idea that we're going to deal with the pinball offenses in the league by just overloading safeties is ridiculous.

If you're going to go heavy at a spot on the defense, target the D-line. Take a guy like Mercilus or Brockers. The D-Line, namely getting interior push to prevent the short routes underneath, is going to be where games are won and lost for the foreseeable future, IMO. Chapman's a start, but if you're doubling down and burning 3 picks on defense you'd be better served to go Brockers, Still, Chapman. Or Brockers, Harrison Smith, Chapman. Or Mercilus, Ta'amu, Taylor, etc...

The trenches are where to focus on right now, IMO - not the safeties.

And we're reaching pretty badly on Chapman there, IMO.

we have two safeties on the roster currently and both ate coming off injury and we run as many 3 safety packages than any team in the league.

I'm totally cool with drafting a kid that has Seymour type skills but Brockers isn't that guy.

He has 2 sacks in 2 years as a starter.

0 forced fumbles.

Seymour averages over 5 a year.

Talk about overloading one spot...

Dorsey
Jackson
Bailey
Gordon

That's a solid set of ends.

I'd rather take Decastro and I'm certainly not a fan of his...but at least I can see a clear upgrade.

04-12-2012, 10:07 PM
Fat Elvis Sexiest Athlete Join Date: Apr 2001 Casino cash: $-2028075	Fat E's Mock Draft Here is my 2012 mock draft. I know a lot of you will hate it, but oh well. 1.11- David DeCastro G, Stanford--Drafting a Guard at 11 is just painful for me but De Castro is something special. It isn't just that he is going to be, in all likelihood, a GREAT guard, he is also a very cerebral player. When interviewed, he had an understanding of the Stanford offense that rivaled Luck. I think that will be important for the Chiefs O-line in establishing both running and throwing lanes if we are going to maximize the talent that do have; I don't think Mark Castle is long for the Red and Gold. We will be getting a QBOTF either this year or next. Tannenhill will be gone by 11 (thankfully) and I think the sleeper of the draft can be picked up later on. 2.44- Alameda Ta'amu NT, Washington--The Chiefs finally get thier NT which will really shore up the D and make it one of the top (if not the top) defenses in the NFL--in 2013. Gotta give the guy a year or so to really develop into the position. 3.75- Brandon Taylor S, LSU-- Here is a guy who will really create a great combo with Eric Berry. You can really disguise a defense with these two because either can play SS or FS. Taylor needs to work on his ball skills, but he can really lay the wood and is plenty fast for a safety. 4.106- Russell Wilson QB, Wisconsin-- I know just about everyone will hate this pick, but this guy has IT. Yes he is short; give the guy platform cleats if it makes you feel better. The fact of the matter is he is EXTREMELY accurate, has a rocket for an arm and is a very smart QB. His lack of size has never hurt him and if you look at the Badger O-Line, it is pretty obvious that he has no problem seeing the field even though the guys in front of him tower over him. This guy will be the steal of the draft-I guarentee it. 5.137- Vontaze Burfect ILB, Az State-- This guy is a total headcase. It is why his draft prospect has fallen so far. Absolute nutjob. And an idiot. But he hits really, really hard. Really hard. Crennell has dealt with his fair share of idiots and will command his respect. I think Crennell can whip him into shape and make him a coachable prospect. If Burfect can play with some semblance of control, he can be a terror. 6.170- Terrance Ganaway RB, Baylor-- Big guy. Can be a bruiser between the tackles. Will be a liability in passing situations since he really hasn't had to block with RG3's speed. Good depth for a low pick. 7.200- Jacquies Smith DE/OLB, Mizzou-- Good leader; can get to the QB. Could provide some nice depth. 7.220- Josh Oglesby OL, Wisconsin-- Huge guy. 6'7" 338 lbs. Was very consistent on a good Badger O-line. Rip away folks. If you don't like a pick, at least tell us why you don't like it and who you would pick in place of the person you don't like. Fat E
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DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $-800901	Hate that draft. Taking Barron at all in the first is a waste and then to double up on safeties just further diminishes his value. The 'arcade football' crowd has lost its damn mind. You don't need 3 high-value safeties to have a great defense; we'd have drafted 3 guys including 2 first rounders and have a 4th guy that's starting caliber. The NFL isn't going to be about loading as many hybrid athletes into the defensive backfield as possible. The league simply isn't going to let these safeties cover like you think they will. The PI flags are still going to be thrown on deep balls. The roughing flags are still coming out on hard hits. Coverage from the safety position has been largely neutered by the rules and is overrated as hell. The idea that we're going to deal with the pinball offenses in the league by just overloading safeties is ridiculous. If you're going to go heavy at a spot on the defense, target the D-line. Take a guy like Mercilus or Brockers. The D-Line, namely getting interior push to prevent the short routes underneath, is going to be where games are won and lost for the foreseeable future, IMO. Chapman's a start, but if you're doubling down and burning 3 picks on defense you'd be better served to go Brockers, Still, Chapman. Or Brockers, Harrison Smith, Chapman. Or Mercilus, Ta'amu, Taylor, etc... The trenches are where to focus on right now, IMO - not the safeties. And we're reaching pretty badly on Chapman there, IMO. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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