The Mythical Ricky Stanzi

[Bowser]

Why? Why is this guy held in such high regard around here? I remember him leading exactly *ONE* touchdown drive of note last preseason, and really don't remember him sticking in my memory as a guy that I'd love to have on my team coming out of college.

Are we so starved for a quarterback, ANY quarterback, that we bring up through the ranks to finally break through and be THE GUY that we would put this seemingly average and nondescript player up on a pedestal? I mean, seriously, he couldn't even beat out Tyler Palko for the backup gig. Tyler. Freaking. Palko. It makes me wish I were more of a Hawkeye fan just so I could buy into the "hype" surrounding him. I haven't seen this much hopefull wishing since Casey Printers and Ted White didn't make the team.

So, sell me on this phenom named Stanzi. I dare you.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla

It's like Huard/Croyle all over again.

This. Not exactly Montana vs Young here. More like which shitburger tastes better?
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[Coogs]

Originally Posted by whoman69

Poppycock, most of his starts were after Romeo was fired. Both seasons he started games, he ended up on IR. IMO his linebacker build is an impediment. He created his own chances, and was equally swift in snuffing them out. Once Romeo was fired, he couldn't beat out Derek Anderson, who after his one good season was historically bad. He got another chance when Derek stunk it up in the 3rd game. Quinn was Mangini's guy from that point, but didn't prove himself. With Mangini coming back the next year, Quinn was traded for a little known fullback and a late round pick.

2007 season... Quinn held out for nearly 2 weeks before signing deal. Anderson took advantage. (Not a smart move by Quinn, his agent, or both).

2008 season... Anderson gets new big contract. Sucks ass. Quinn comes in and does pretty good. Quinn starts week 10 against Denver. Lost 34-30. Week 11 beat the Bills 29-27, but Quinn breaks right index finger. Plays next week in a loss, but is then out for the season.

Crennel fired.

2009 season... Winslow traded for draft pick. Quinn started first 3 games. Then Anderson started 4th. Edwards traded to Jets. Anderson starts until week 10 when Quinn got nod again. Quinn leaves Cleveland.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by J Diddy

Wasn't he playing against scrubs?

Our starter played mostly against scrubs and looked like hell. It's silly to note that a guy played against scrubs when he was playing WITH scrubs. Even worse, his lineman were revolving doors and I believe one had JUST converted from DL.

Not to mention that his receivers did everything they could to drop the passes he threw to them...

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

This. Not exactly Montana vs Young here. More like which shitburger tastes better?
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Nah. It's more like you have a choice between a shitburger (Cassel) and a burger that has a very suspicious-looking condiment spread on the bun. Could be something innocent like peanut butter, or it could a congealed smear of Type 7 poop.

And before you get started, yes, peanut butter cheeseburgers are ****ing amazing. Don't knock it 'til you've tried it.

[Bowser]

There's a couple of gifs floating around here where Stanzi finds Cody Slate on a seam pattern down the middle with an excellent throw, and another where he finds him on a corner route for a touchdown. Both throws were excellent, and the TD throw was off his back foot, but still on the money.

Those are the two plays I remember thinking "damn good throw, there".

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by Satanic Goat

It's hope in the face of hopelessness.

Should have been locked here. People waiting on Stanzi truly enjoy urinating into a fierce north wind.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Are we so starved for a quarterback, ANY quarterback.

Yes, and for good damned reason. No franchise qb since Len Dawson.

EVERYONE should be starved for a good qb.

I do know Matt Cassel ISNT that qb.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by Bowser

There's a couple of gifs floating around here where Stanzi finds Cody Slate on a seam pattern down the middle with an excellent throw, and another where he finds him on a corner route for a touchdown. Both throws were excellent, and the TD throw was off his back foot, but still on the money.

Those are the two plays I remember thinking "damn good throw, there".

I remember the pass to Slate. My initial reaction was, "Wow".

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Should have been locked here. People waiting on Stanzi truly enjoy urinating into a fierce north wind.

It's our lot in life as Chiefs fans, apparently. MAYBE PAT BARNES CAN TAKE OVER WHEN GRBAC IS DONE, et al.

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja

Yes, and for good damned reason. No franchise qb since Len Dawson.

EVERYONE should be starved for a good qb.

I do know Matt Cassel ISNT that qb.

The only person that seemingly doesn't know that is the guy making personnel decisions for the Chiefs. For the life of me, I have no clue as to what he sees in Cassel that literally the rest of the world doesn't.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Bowser

There's a couple of gifs floating around here where Stanzi finds Cody Slate on a seam pattern down the middle with an excellent throw, and another where he finds him on a corner route for a touchdown. Both throws were excellent, and the TD throw was off his back foot, but still on the money.

Those are the two plays I remember thinking "damn good throw, there".

I can't remember what game this was in, whether it was the Green Bay preseason game or one of the first wins we got last season (Vikings? Colts?) but Cassel has a gif'd up throw that was pretty good. The problem with it is he had to gallop and take about 6 or 7 steps to get into an broad-legged stance to achieve his windup.

By comparison, I don't think we'll ever see Stanzi leisurely take one of those 4-second preps if he becomes our starter. It's just so totally not necessary.

Remember, Stanzi had a few weeks of coaching sessions out of Tom Martinez, whose big thing was eliminating unnecessary motion and keeping everything compact and efficient.

College efficiency, starts, consecutive years of improvement, bowl wins, quality conference wins, and pro style background in college are the main reasons why people compare Stanzi to Brady. Throw in a brief stint with Martinez (not nearly as long as Brady had him for, but still) and hell... you practically EXPECT him to be the next Brady.

I know all of that means shit, but it shows that it's not totally unfair to point to Brady when people ask what Stanzi could do.

[kcxiv]

I dont either, everyone see's that Cassel isnt the guy but him. I dont know what he see's positive out of cassel. I think that 27 and 7 season did something to Pioli. That was a huge ass Mirage.

Cassel isnt accurate, he doesnt have a strong arm, He cant make the big play in crunch time. He cant throw a screen pass to save is life. He has shit for pocket presence. Its like what does he see?

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Should have been locked here. People waiting on Stanzi truly enjoy urinating into a fierce north wind.

We have 3 QBs.

Cassel is a POS.

Quinn has looked less than bad, mostly.

Stanzi is unknown.

There is NOTHING wrong with people hanging their hats on Stanzi if the usual starter is a repeat offender of looking like burnt turds.

What is the other option?

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Dave

We have 3 QBs.

Cassel is a POS.

Quinn has looked less than bad, mostly.

Stanzi is unknown.

There is NOTHING wrong with people hanging their hats on Stanzi if the usual starter is a repeat offender of looking like burnt turds.

What is the other option?

We're never going to get our magical 1st round QB. Now THERE'S a mythical beast we should be starting a thread about. And no, Landry ****ing Jones doesn't count as a 1st round QB. If Tannehill is crap what the hell do people call Jones?

That's our other option. Bitch the entire year about this franchise's fear and obsession with not drafting a QB in the first round.

Personally, I've done enough of that ever since the Trent Green trade. I'm sick of it. I see a prospect that I really like, and who I think is a fantastic player. I think he could be a great QB in the league. And I arrived at that based on my OWN judgements upon watching him at Iowa and in the preseason.

I'm going to emotionally invest in Stanzi. I'm rooting for the guy. And you know what? The likelihood of my hope coming true is far greater than everybody else's hope of drafting that mythical 1st round QB.

[Reerun_KC]

a thread over a 5th round qb?

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja

I dont either, everyone see's that Cassel isnt the guy but him. I dont know what he see's positive out of cassel. I think that 27 and 7 season did something to Pioli. That was a huge ass Mirage.

Cassel isnt accurate, he doesnt have a strong arm, He cant make the big play in crunch time. He cant throw a screen pass to save is life. He has shit for pocket presence. Its like what does he see?

When everything is absolutely perfect around Cassel, he is a great QB. But as soon as there is a touch of pressure or his first read isn't open, you can see him getting happy feet and looking to dump off. Speaking of gifs, someone posted a gif of Cassel hitting an underneath crossing route while the pocket was beginning to collapse while he never noticed the guy breaking to the post (Baldwin?) was wide the **** open.

In 2010 when he was on that hot streak with Bowe, I'd like to know how many of those passes were hit off of play action. That was also when Charles was on his streak, and nearly broke Jim Brown's season record for yards per carry,and defenses were trying to shut down the run game before the pass game.