2013 QB Prospects - Page 4

Direckshun · 05-01-2012, 11:00 AM

Below are no fewer than SIX quarterbacks to which I've given either "1st round" or "borderline 1st" grades.

Tyler Wilson, Arkansas

Logan Thomas, Virginia Tech

Matt Barkley, USC

Tyler Bray, Tennessee (relatively unlikely he declares)

Aaron Murray, Georgia (relatively unlikely he declares)

Landry Jones, Oklahoma

Now it should be noted: with the rookie wage scale, it's preferable for QB prospects to just get into the pros whenever they can, rather than biding their time and trying to compete for a Top 5 selection. The Top 5 used to mean you were in a top 10% earner in the NFL. Now it doesn't mean much over somebody like Tannehill's #8 spot, financially.

QB hungry teams in 2013 are bolded.

Patriots -- Brady/Mallett
Bills -- Fitzpatrick
Jets -- Sanchez/Tebow
Dolphins -- Tannehill

Browns -- Weeden
Steelers -- Rothlisberger
Ravens -- Flacco
Bengals -- Dalton

Colts -- Luck
Texans -- Schaub
Jaguars -- Gabbert/Henne
Titans -- Hasselbeck/Locker

Chiefs -- Cassel
Chargers -- Rivers
Broncos -- Manning/Osweiler
Raiders -- Palmer

Cowboys -- Romo
Giants -- Manning
Redskins -- Griffin
Eagles -- Vick

Packers -- Rodgers
Vikings -- Ponder
Lions -- Stafford
Bears -- Cutler

Panthers -- Newton
Falcons -- Ryan
Buccaneers -- Freeman
Saints -- Brees

Cardinals -- Kolb
Rams -- Bradford
49ers -- Smith/Kaepernick
Seahawks -- Flynn/Wilson

6 teams that will need a QB. Maybe eight if you buy the idea that the Cowboys or Eagles could be shopping for a new one.

So assuming at least half of those QBs declare, which is a relatively conservative bet, my prediction is that the Chiefs will be drafting a new quarterback in 2013. Even if it means having to trade up for one.

**DaKCMan AP** · 05-03-2012, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

I actually agree with Sacc on something......holy shit.

Domer homer :P

Direckshun · 05-03-2012, 11:19 AM

The worst thing that can happen is that Brady Quinn looks really good for the Chiefs.

We'll have to make a choice between franchising him, Dorsey, AND Albert.

Direckshun · 05-03-2012, 11:23 AM

That said, if there were ever a situation for Quinn to thrive, it'd be here and now.

He knows Daboll's offense. Crennel trusts him, making it less likely he'd shackle him when he takes the field.

He's got a run game, great protection, good receivers, and a stout defense.

This would be the best opportunity of Quinn's life.

Direckshun · 05-03-2012, 11:24 AM

Come to think of it, we are probably letting Dorsey walk anyway, and we'll probably still franchise Albert.

I doubt we'd have to franchise Quinn. Quinn hitting the market would look exactly like Alex Smith hitting the market. Despite his theoretical success with us, teams are always going to be leery with him, and we can probably get a deal done with him on the cheap without having to burn the tag on him.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

**RealSNR** · 05-03-2012, 11:35 AM

Seriously. If Pioli's such a special GM why doesn't he just get these guys signed to a deal before they leave?

He has all season to extend Albert's contract. If he's going to sit around and play grab ass with himself, then we can pretty much say goodbye to trading up for a QB next draft. We'll need draft picks to replace Dorsey/Jackson, Albert, Lewis, Moeaki, and Asamoah.

**The Franchise** · 05-03-2012, 11:37 AM

I have a feeling that Quinn would sign a deal with us if he succeeded here. He wouldn't want to have to go somewhere else and learn a completely new offense.

Direckshun · 05-03-2012, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

I have a feeling that Quinn would sign a deal with us if he succeeded here. He wouldn't want to have to go somewhere else and learn a completely new offense.

Especially after drifting from shit situation to shittier situation.

Direckshun · 05-03-2012, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Seriously. If Pioli's such a special GM why doesn't he just get these guys signed to a deal before they leave?

He has all season to extend Albert's contract. If he's going to sit around and play grab ass with himself, then we can pretty much say goodbye to trading up for a QB next draft. We'll need draft picks to replace Dorsey/Jackson, Albert, Lewis, Moeaki, and Asamoah.

God, you look at that list and you just know Jackson knows he's getting paid $14 million next year. You just know it.

What leverage do the Chiefs have? They can't cut him, because we won't have the draft ammo to replace him, and Bailey is currently slotted to replace Dorsey.

The only thing the Chiefs have is a deal to extend him. Take less money, and we'll pay you for more years.

BigChiefFan · 05-03-2012, 12:16 PM

Franchise Brady Quinn? Seriously??? He's a stop-gap and no way we re-sign him to starter's money.

Chiefnj2 · 05-03-2012, 12:25 PM

The crystal meth and painkillers must be flowing freely in Missouri.

DJ's left nut · 05-03-2012, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

God, you look at that list and you just know Jackson knows he's getting paid $14 million next year. You just know it.

What leverage do the Chiefs have? They can't cut him, because we won't have the draft ammo to replace him, and Bailey is currently slotted to replace Dorsey.

The only thing the Chiefs have is a deal to extend him. Take less money, and we'll pay you for more years.

Starting to see why I liked Brockers yet?

Hell, even Still in the 2nd would've been nice.

Not grabbing a legitimate threat to replace Jackson/Dorsey in this draft was a mistake.

**RealSNR** · 05-03-2012, 01:00 PM

Uhh... don't we still have cap room? Are we saying that after a freakin right tackle, Peyton Hillis, Kevin Boss, and Brady ****ing Quinn we're all of a sudden out of cash to sign our franchise players?

**RealSNR** · 05-03-2012, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Starting to see why I liked Brockers yet?

Hell, even Still in the 2nd would've been nice.

Not grabbing a legitimate threat to replace Jackson/Dorsey in this draft was a mistake.

I'd still rather have him than Poe. But eh, what can ya do.

Saccopoo · 05-03-2012, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Starting to see why I liked Brockers yet?

Hell, even Still in the 2nd would've been nice.

Not grabbing a legitimate threat to replace Jackson/Dorsey in this draft was a mistake.

There was a lot of mistakes in this past draft by the Chiefs:

- Poe over Brockers or DeCastro (assuming they picked Allen in the second to play guard).

- Not getting either Konz in the second, Molk in the seventh or Brewster/Garner in free agency when they were available hoping that either Hudson or Lilja is going to transition to the center spot is borderline reeruned.

- Overdrafting Allen and Stephenson to hope one of them beats out Albert and then moving whoever is left over to guard.

- Picking up another McCluster in the fourth over Ta'amu or Chapman. (If they wanted NT depth, take the freakin' guys who actually were accomplished nose tackles versus a total project in the first.)

It was a massively shitty draft and very questionable decisions on need/personnel were made.

**DaKCMan AP** · 05-03-2012, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

There was a lot of mistakes in this past draft by the Chiefs:

- Poe over Brockers or DeCastro (assuming they picked Allen in the second to play guard).

- Not getting either Konz in the second, Molk in the seventh or Brewster/Garner in free agency when they were available hoping that either Hudson or Lilja is going to transition to the center spot is borderline reeruned.

- Overdrafting Allen and Stephenson to hope one of them beats out Albert and then moving whoever is left over to guard.

- Picking up another McCluster in the fourth over Ta'amu or Chapman. (If they wanted NT depth, take the freakin' guys who actually were accomplished nose tackles versus a total project in the first.)

It was a massively shitty draft and very questionable decisions on need/personnel were made.

05-01-2012, 11:00 AM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2093447	2013 QB Prospects Below are no fewer than SIX quarterbacks to which I've given either "1st round" or "borderline 1st" grades. Tyler Wilson, Arkansas Logan Thomas, Virginia Tech Matt Barkley, USC Tyler Bray, Tennessee (relatively unlikely he declares) Aaron Murray, Georgia (relatively unlikely he declares) Landry Jones, Oklahoma Now it should be noted: with the rookie wage scale, it's preferable for QB prospects to just get into the pros whenever they can, rather than biding their time and trying to compete for a Top 5 selection. The Top 5 used to mean you were in a top 10% earner in the NFL. Now it doesn't mean much over somebody like Tannehill's #8 spot, financially. QB hungry teams in 2013 are bolded. Patriots -- Brady/Mallett Bills -- Fitzpatrick Jets -- Sanchez/Tebow Dolphins -- Tannehill Browns -- Weeden Steelers -- Rothlisberger Ravens -- Flacco Bengals -- Dalton Colts -- Luck Texans -- Schaub Jaguars -- Gabbert/Henne Titans -- Hasselbeck/Locker Chiefs -- Cassel Chargers -- Rivers Broncos -- Manning/Osweiler Raiders -- Palmer Cowboys -- Romo Giants -- Manning Redskins -- Griffin Eagles -- Vick Packers -- Rodgers Vikings -- Ponder Lions -- Stafford Bears -- Cutler Panthers -- Newton Falcons -- Ryan Buccaneers -- Freeman Saints -- Brees Cardinals -- Kolb Rams -- Bradford 49ers -- Smith/Kaepernick Seahawks -- Flynn/Wilson 6 teams that will need a QB. Maybe eight if you buy the idea that the Cowboys or Eagles could be shopping for a new one. So assuming at least half of those QBs declare, which is a relatively conservative bet, my prediction is that the Chiefs will be drafting a new quarterback in 2013. Even if it means having to trade up for one.
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Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2093447	The worst thing that can happen is that Brady Quinn looks really good for the Chiefs. We'll have to make a choice between franchising him, Dorsey, AND Albert.
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05-03-2012, 11:23 AM	#48
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2093447	That said, if there were ever a situation for Quinn to thrive, it'd be here and now. He knows Daboll's offense. Crennel trusts him, making it less likely he'd shackle him when he takes the field. He's got a run game, great protection, good receivers, and a stout defense. This would be the best opportunity of Quinn's life.
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Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2093447	Come to think of it, we are probably letting Dorsey walk anyway, and we'll probably still franchise Albert. I doubt we'd have to franchise Quinn. Quinn hitting the market would look exactly like Alex Smith hitting the market. Despite his theoretical success with us, teams are always going to be leery with him, and we can probably get a deal done with him on the cheap without having to burn the tag on him. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
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