The Mythical Ricky Stanzi

[Bowser]

Why? Why is this guy held in such high regard around here? I remember him leading exactly *ONE* touchdown drive of note last preseason, and really don't remember him sticking in my memory as a guy that I'd love to have on my team coming out of college.

Are we so starved for a quarterback, ANY quarterback, that we bring up through the ranks to finally break through and be THE GUY that we would put this seemingly average and nondescript player up on a pedestal? I mean, seriously, he couldn't even beat out Tyler Palko for the backup gig. Tyler. Freaking. Palko. It makes me wish I were more of a Hawkeye fan just so I could buy into the "hype" surrounding him. I haven't seen this much hopefull wishing since Casey Printers and Ted White didn't make the team.

So, sell me on this phenom named Stanzi. I dare you.

[Ace Gunner]

Originally Posted by BillSelfsTrophycase

Wut?

Trent Green certainly wasn't elite, but "not very good"?

he did not come into the league playing the way you remember him playing. that's where stanzi is now -- coming into the league. both are late late round QB's. if stanzi can get help, he too can become a good QB like green became. maybe. it's really a crap shoot with guys like this.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by chiefsfootballfan

jesus christ you ppl are dense. trent green had a weak arm. he wasn't very good. that's why the chargers drafted him in the 10th round and that is why.... holy **** forget it. stanzi is montana. or elway or whover you ****tards want him to be.

You may want to have your eyes checked...might as well have a cat scan while you're at it.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by Canofbier

God, I'd forgotten how awful our team was in the preseason and the beginning of the season last year. Those were dark times.

Yup that was Todd Haleys fault still to this day posters won't hold him accountable either.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Stanzi and Green had noodle arms?

Some guys think if you don't GUN the ball down the field like it was show out of a cannon you have a noodle arm. I don't get that line of thinking. If the ball has any arc at all, you have a noodle arm, when in fact, you're giving your receiver a chance to run up under the ball and make a play. Especially, if you are very accurate with that type of ball, like Stanzi or Green.

[BossChief]

After just a few passes, Milkman (one of the more objective posters of not only the Planet, but of all Chiefs related boards) called Stanzis arm a "plus arm"

It's plenty strong enough to make every throw asked of him with zip and good velocity.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by chiefsfootballfan

he did not come into the league playing the way you remember him playing. that's where stanzi is now -- coming into the league. both are late late round QB's. if stanzi can get help, he too can become a good QB like green became. maybe. it's really a crap shoot with guys like this.

Trent Green's nickname from teammates BEFORE his time in St. Louis was "The Sniper". Don't act as though he wasn't good. Green was one of MANY guys who simply didn't get a fair shake, never got a real shot early on.

Do you ever wonder how many potential HOF QB's never even got a shot b/c they were low round draft picks. Why were they low round draft picks, b/c they played at a small or unsexy/unsuccessful college? Didn't have all world size or speed?

Drew Brees is the exception in more ways than just being a small QB. He's a small QB who actually got a shot. Most don't. Will Kellen Moore?

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

Yup that was Todd Haleys fault still to this day posters won't hold him accountable either.

The players on that field in this video, especially the OL, are not Haley's fault. Luke Patterson and these other schmucks were picked up by Pioli. The talent on the other teams 2nd/3rd string were more often than not far superior to what the Chiefs fielded. Hell, on of Stanzi's starting tackles was a converted Dlineman. He just started playing tackle THAT training camp, in a shortened offseason, who was it? Bobby Greenwood?

I can't blame it all on Pioli. If you watch UDFA signings every year around the league, certain teams clean up, like Baltimore. It makes no sense though, these players go to teams that are STACKED at their particular position, and might never truly get a shot playing for that team. I know coaching has a lot to do with it, like Greenbay with WR's and Baltimore with LBers, but damn, you'd think players would want to go to a team THIN at their position. So they might get a chance at more playing time...

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by BossChief

After just a few passes, Milkman (one of the more objective posters of not only the Planet, but of all Chiefs related boards) called Stanzis arm a "plus arm"

It's plenty strong enough to make every throw asked of him with zip and good velocity.

Actually, one of his knocks, even by some of my fellow Iowa fan buddies, was that he can't throw the 10yd out. Not only did he do it regularly at Iowa, but in the second video, he nails Mark Zuckehreshkjhdfsg on one perfectly. There are one or two more in the video, but the WR's flat out dropped them...

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by aturnis

The players on that field in this video, especially the OL, are not Haley's fault. Luke Patterson and these other schmucks were picked up by Pioli. The talent on the other teams 2nd/3rd string were more often than not far superior to what the Chiefs fielded. Hell, on of Stanzi's starting tackles was a converted Dlineman. He just started playing tackle THAT training camp, in a shortened offseason, who was it? Bobby Greenwood?

I can't blame it all on Pioli. If you watch UDFA signings every year around the league, certain teams clean up, like Baltimore. It makes no sense though, these players go to teams that are STACKED at their particular position, and might never truly get a shot playing for that team. I know coaching has a lot to do with it, like Greenbay with WR's and Baltimore with LBers, but damn, you'd think players would want to go to a team THIN at their position. So they might get a chance at more playing time...

NONE of these guys looked prepared whatsoever. They looked the same a month later too.

[BossChief]

That chicken salad was pretty good.

[Blick]

Haley handled the pre-season horrendously and it's funny how there weren't many of us who felt that way at the time.

There were actually a lot of guys who thought Haley's approach would keep the team healthy.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Blick

Haley handled the pre-season horrendously and it's funny how there weren't many of us who felt that way at the time.

There were actually a lot of guys who thought Haley's approach would keep the team healthy.

It did.

The three ACL injuries had nothing to do with the preseason approach.

[Ace Gunner]

Originally Posted by aturnis

Trent Green's nickname from teammates BEFORE his time in St. Louis was "The Sniper". Don't act as though he wasn't good. Green was one of MANY guys who simply didn't get a fair shake, never got a real shot early on.

Do you ever wonder how many potential HOF QB's never even got a shot b/c they were low round draft picks. Why were they low round draft picks, b/c they played at a small or unsexy/unsuccessful college? Didn't have all world size or speed?

Drew Brees is the exception in more ways than just being a small QB. He's a small QB who actually got a shot. Most don't. Will Kellen Moore?

well that is what reminds me of trent green is stanzi's ability to stand in and find a guy in traffic and get the ball there with good accuracy at times.

but I remember watching trent green play for vermeil and the rams. IIRC he took over for an injured QB (banks?) and he was terrible most of the time, but then, so was the team he played with.

I think he's at least a year from being ready. I'm expecting cassel, then quinn this season. not that I'll even watch that shit, but I'll follow it on the net.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by chiefsfootballfan

well that is what reminds me of trent green is stanzi's ability to stand in and find a guy in traffic and get the ball there with good accuracy at times.

but I remember watching trent green play for vermeil and the rams. IIRC he took over for an injured QB (banks?) and he was terrible most of the time, but then, so was the team he played with.

I think he's at least a year from being ready. I'm expecting cassel, then quinn this season. not that I'll even watch that shit, but I'll follow it on the net.

In the 8 game he played for the Rams, he had 2000 yards, 16 TDs and 5 Ints. Extrapolate that for a whole season and it's 4000 yards, 32 TDs and 10 Ints. That's a MVP type season.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by chiefsfootballfan

well that is what reminds me of trent green is stanzi's ability to stand in and find a guy in traffic and get the ball there with good accuracy at times.

but I remember watching trent green play for vermeil and the rams. IIRC he took over for an injured QB (banks?) and he was terrible most of the time, but then, so was the team he played with.

I think he's at least a year from being ready. I'm expecting cassel, then quinn this season. not that I'll even watch that shit, but I'll follow it on the net.

You are ****ing clueless.

Trent Green was with the Redskins, and was brought to Rams when Mike Martz was hired as OC.

He and Tony Banks were never teammates.

His first season with the Rams was the same preseason that he had his knee blown out by Rodney Harrison.

Of you are going to make baseless claims, at least get your story right so that you don't look like a complete ****ing dumbass, dumbass.