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Old 05-22-2012, 04:06 PM  
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Porch floor options

Here's the ugliest member of our family that doesn't have my name...our front porch.

Smallish house, smallish porch. I'm blessed in plenty of other ways.

It's not really protected. When we moved in 4 years ago it had putt-putt type carpet on the porch floor. Time, sun, and the rain did their thing until it became the rattiest tripping hazard in the neighborhood.

Off it came.

I'm now the proud owner of a mastic/adhesive residue covered, slightly sloping *towards* the house, porch and delightfully outdated railing.

What do people do for porch floors these days?

Tile?

Have their been epic strides in indoor-outdoor carpet technology since Clinton's el camino years?

How thin of a thinset cap can one put on to re-slope?

I do realize that many a 15K porch remodels start with "Let's rip off that nasty carpet and go from there."

This won't be one of those escalations. That will come in 8 years.

Here's the visual report. I welcome all of your expertise and smartassery.





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Old 05-22-2012, 07:34 PM   #16
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Old 05-22-2012, 07:35 PM   #17
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Old 05-22-2012, 07:36 PM   #18
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Old 05-22-2012, 08:22 PM   #19
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Lots of good input. Thanks.

Let's pretend that I was a total bottom feeder house flipper. Not all flippers dwell on the bottom, but the person who did this house was mr cutcorners. What devilry did he invoke to stick that carpet down? Do I really have to sand it all off?

At this point I'd like to consider epoxy paint possibly with some grit added.

I figure as with any paint the prep work makes or breaks the quality of the job. Does epoxy paint stick to even old carpet adhesive?
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Old 05-22-2012, 08:59 PM   #20
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Tile could work well on the porch but I wouldn't put tile on those steps. Might get a bit slippery in the winter months and eventually there would be installation problems.

Why not just have some nicer quality outdoor carpet installed? Not all outdoor carpet looks like grass. Have you visited a local flooring dealer? I bet you have a good one close to home.
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Old 05-23-2012, 12:05 AM   #21
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Old 05-23-2012, 12:12 AM   #22
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Old 05-23-2012, 06:39 AM   #23
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Dude, this beard has both men and women throwing themselves at me.

Sometimes the bennies can be helpful, but other times I just wonder if it's all worth it.

May have to shave it just to take a break.
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Old 05-23-2012, 07:54 AM   #24
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Lots of good input. Thanks.

Let's pretend that I was a total bottom feeder house flipper. Not all flippers dwell on the bottom, but the person who did this house was mr cutcorners. What devilry did he invoke to stick that carpet down? Do I really have to sand it all off?

At this point I'd like to consider epoxy paint possibly with some grit added.

I figure as with any paint the prep work makes or breaks the quality of the job. Does epoxy paint stick to even old carpet adhesive?
The epoxy would stick to the glue. But one day when the glue decides to peel off the concrete, you will not be happy. It's likely just an exterior grade carpet adhesive, nothing special. Best way to remove is with elbow grease. Get a floor scraper and then a razor scraper and go to town until it's off as much as possible. Powerwash. If it was a commercial job, we'd probably have it bead-blasted, but you won't want to mess with that.
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Old 05-23-2012, 10:07 AM   #25
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you could always put the green carpeting back on, drill a hole in it, drop a flag, and have a little putting green on your porch.
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Old 05-23-2012, 10:28 AM   #26
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you could always put the green carpeting back on, drill a hole in it, drop a flag, and have a little putting green on your porch.
I like this a lot.

The subtle sway in level would add to the challenge, and kids coming and going would simulate the windmill obstacle. Brilliant!
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Old 05-23-2012, 11:08 AM   #27
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yeah, and you could put one of those little "lakes" in that they have at the miniature golf places to keep rain water from getting to the foundation.
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Old 07-14-2012, 11:15 PM   #28
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Let's face it. This porch stinks, and if we're going to put any money into it, the first check would go to the demolition crew.

So. 50bucks for a day rental on a 5inch concrete grinder and here's the score.

Concrete grinder: 1
My jeans: 0
My gashed leg: -1
My aching back: -2 (such an old man)

The diamond cup didn't love it, but it got the job done.






I was too pooped and weak to get those verticals on the steps. They used a lot more adhesive there and I'll use chemicals to attack that part.

So now all the concrete is bare and unprotected.

If I were in love with the porch I'd do some cool concrete stenciling.

Not in love. Now I just want to protect it. What's the right move here? Thompsons? Skim coat of concrete?
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Old 07-15-2012, 02:44 AM   #29
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Not Thompsons. You'll want a masonry sealer specific for concrete. It's not cheap - at least the good stuff isn't. Plan to pay $50+ a gallon for something that is worth putting down.

Skim coating isn't easy and you open yourself up for a lot of problems down the road if you don't prep right. I'm not posting all the steps but you should be fine with a google search. You'll need a bonding agent and a proper mix for a thin topcoat. You'll also want to pull back your first coarse of siding and the cast iron hand rails before prepping any of the substrate.
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Since we're on the subject, I have a similar issue on my front stoop. I was thinking of overlaying it with some type of composite decking. Anyone ever try that? Good or bad idea?
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