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Old 05-28-2012, 01:01 PM   #1
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Matter of the fact is, I am a bit of an old schooler. While I like the passing game... I would much prefer to watch Charles run for 200 yards. That's my kind of football.

I just want a QB who can bail us out when that doesn't happen. And I am thinking that either Quinn or Stanzi can win games too... when Charles goes off for 200. That not a skill set that Cassel is the only QB in the NFL can win with.

It's who can provide us with plan B when plan A isn't working. And we all know that isn't Cassel.
And we know it isn't Quinn either and likely won't be Stanzi.


Why can't people understand that we likely have 3 average to below average quarterbacks? Quinn has proven that he sucks. And Stanzi hasn't proven anything. He could show something later this off season, but counting on that is like counting on winning the lottery.
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Old 05-28-2012, 01:05 PM   #2
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Why can't people understand that we likely have 3 average to below average quarterbacks?
Because we don't know that.

All we do know is that we're riding the next Bono/Girlbac/Kreig disaster train that the FO seems happy to see play out...
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Old 05-28-2012, 01:07 PM   #3
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Because we don't know that.

All we do know is that we're riding the next Bono/Girlbac/Kreig disaster train that the FO seems happy to see play out...
Key word = "Likely"

There is a 5% chance Stanzi even becomes an average starting QB. Less than a 1% chance he becomes anything special.

So yeah, I'm right. We likely have 3 average to below average Qbs.
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Old 05-28-2012, 01:10 PM   #4
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Key word = "Likely"

There is a 5% chance Stanzi even becomes an average starting QB. Less than a 1% chance he becomes anything special.

So yeah, I'm right. We likely have 3 average to below average Qbs.
No, you're wrong.
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Old 05-28-2012, 01:18 PM   #5
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No, you're wrong.
How am I wrong? What are the chances of a 5th round QB winning a superbowl?
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How am I wrong? What are the chances of a 5th round QB winning a superbowl?
What are the chances of a 1st round QB winning a SB?...
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Old 05-28-2012, 01:48 PM   #7
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What are the chances of a 1st round QB winning a SB?...
Of all the superbowls since 1980, all but 13 quarterbacks have been 1st rounders.

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349 QB's drafted in the 2nd round or later since 1980.

12 have started a Super Bowl:

Esiason
Hostetler
Rypien
Gannon
Chandler
Humphries
O'Donnell
Favre
Brady
Hasselbeck
Warner
Brees


EDIT: As I see Joe Montana added to the discussion, I'll add the 1979 draft class.

That takes the total number of QB's drafted in the 2nd round or later to 361, and the total number of those QB's to start a SB to 13.

96.4% failure rate.
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Old 05-28-2012, 01:29 PM   #8
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Key word = "Likely"

There is a 5% chance Stanzi even becomes an average starting QB. Less than a 1% chance he becomes anything special.

So yeah, I'm right. We likely have 3 average to below average Qbs.
no offense but you need to get off that numbers trip man.

stats sometimes lie.
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Old 05-28-2012, 01:34 PM   #9
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no offense but you need to get off that numbers trip man.

stats sometimes lie.
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There's a reason 5th round QBs are 5th round QBs. Expecting any 5th round QB to pan out is insane.
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Old 05-28-2012, 01:53 PM   #10
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Sigh.


There's a reason 5th round QBs are 5th round QBs. Expecting any 5th round QB to pan out is insane.
I guess expecting a 5th round QB to pan out is insane but it does not mean you should not give him a chance unless he looks like a complete bum. I am in favor of drafting someone else and letting him and Stanzi battle it out or even giving Stanzi a shot this season as I can't imagine him doing worse than Cassels 120 yard games with 56% completion percentage and maybe a TD and a pick.

The worst thing about having to watch Cassel for another season is that our team is set up on both sides of the ball to accommodate a young QB and still be competitive.

We were 4-5 with Cassel last season and 3-4 without him. I think we can get by with just about anyone outside of Palko but I am tired of just getting by. If Stanzi is not ready for a chance ( Maybe he never will be although this is his first offseason ) then I would rather even give Brady Quinn a shot over Cassel. I know what Cassel brings and I don't want that brought anymore.
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There's a reason 5th round QBs are 5th round QBs. Expecting any 5th round QB to pan out is insane.
Tom Brady was a nobody till he got a chance.
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