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Old 05-29-2012, 12:43 PM  
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Where does the Chiefs RB situation rank in 2012?
Take some time this offseason to evaluate where the Chiefs are at each positional grouping.

Today, RBs.

The rule is, you gotta rank just the RB talent, but keep in mind injuries, problems with the law, and contract situations and whatever.

Patriots: Addai, Ridley, Vereen, Woodhead
Jets: Greene, Ganaway, McKnight, Bilal Powell
Dolphins: Bush, Thomas, Slaton, Lamar Miller
Bills: Jackson, Spiller, Choice

Steelers: Mendenhall, Redman, Dwyer, John Clay, Chris Rainey
Ravens: Rice, Bernard Pierce
Browns: Richardson, Hardesty, Ogbonnaya
Bengals: Green-Ellis, Leonard, Bernard Scott

Texans: Foster, Tate, basically nobody else
Colts: Delone Carter, Ballard, Donald Brown
Jaguars: Jones-Drew, Jennings
Titans: Johnson, Javon Ringer, Jamie Harper

Raiders: McFadden, Taiwan Jones, Owen Schmitt
Chargers: Mathews, Curtis Brinkley
Broncos: McGahee, Moreno, Hillman, Ball, Fannin
Chiefs: Charles, Hillis, Gray, McCluster

Cowboys: Murray, Felix Jones
Giants: Bradshaw, David Wilson, Da'Rel Scott
Redskins: Helu, Hightower, Royster
Eagles: McCoy, Chris Polk, Dion Lewis

Packers: Starks, Alex Green, Marc Tyler
Lions: Best, Leshoure, Kevin Smith, Harrison
Vikings: Peterson, Gerhart, Jordan Todman
Bears: Forte, Bush, Kahlil Bell

Panthers: Williams, Stewart, Tolbert, Tauren Poole
Falcons: Turner, Snelling, Rodgers
Saints: Thomas, Ingram, Sproles, Ivory
Buccaneers: Martin, Blount, Robert Hughes

Rams: Jackson, Pead, Brit Miller
Seahawks: Lynch, Turbin, Leon Washington
49ers: Gore, Jacobs, Hunter, LaMichael James, Dixon
Cardinals: Wells, Ryan Williams, Stephens-Howling
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Old 05-29-2012, 01:16 PM   #31
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Old 05-29-2012, 01:16 PM   #32
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The 49ers give you a brokedick (Jacobs), elite gamebreaking speed from an unproven rookie (James), a slight upgrade over Eddie George (Gore) and a change of pace scatback (Hunter).

I love it.

The Chiefs don't quite have that complete a package, but it's pretty dang close.
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To me a top backfield needs to have somebody elite at the top. The only name on that list who does that is Frank Gore, and I've never really been a fan of him. Maybe it's because I don't watch too many Niners games. He kind of reminds me of Larry Johnson in that 2006 Herm season where we made the playoffs. He does a little bit of everything really well, but in the end a large portion of his carries wind up being 2 yards and a vat of jizz. I realize that's the nature of a workhorse back, but I can think of far greater workhorse guys than Gore. The names who come to mind off the top of my head: AP, Foster, Forte, McFadden, Fred Jackson, Michael Turner, and Marshawn Lynch. All of them I'd rather have doing what Frank Gore does on my 49er team than Frank Gore. And I'm not even talking about the other RBs I'd rather have who aren't workhorse types: McCoy, Charles, Ray Rice, CJ, and Sproles.
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Old 05-29-2012, 01:17 PM   #33
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Cuz I said that...

I would take their group over ours. Of course I would take JC over Gore, but they have better versatility and much better depth.
Gore and JC are each team's #1s and will handle the bulk of the load, are they not?
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Old 05-29-2012, 01:18 PM   #34
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Jesus, man. Nobody said that.
Trading the entire ****ing group isnt worth it because of this.
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Old 05-29-2012, 01:21 PM   #35
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Old 05-29-2012, 01:28 PM   #36
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FYP.

To me a top backfield needs to have somebody elite at the top. The only name on that list who does that is Frank Gore, and I've never really been a fan of him. Maybe it's because I don't watch too many Niners games. He kind of reminds me of Larry Johnson in that 2006 Herm season where we made the playoffs. He does a little bit of everything really well, but in the end a large portion of his carries wind up being 2 yards and a vat of jizz. I realize that's the nature of a workhorse back, but I can think of far greater workhorse guys than Gore. The names who come to mind off the top of my head: AP, Foster, Forte, McFadden, Fred Jackson, Michael Turner, and Marshawn Lynch. All of them I'd rather have doing what Frank Gore does on my 49er team than Frank Gore. And I'm not even talking about the other RBs I'd rather have who aren't workhorse types: McCoy, Charles, Ray Rice, CJ, and Sproles.
Your post shows it. The guy ran for 1200 yards last year, good for 6th in the league. He's had 1000 yard seasons, in 5 of his 7 seasons, and is a threat to catch the ball out of the backfield. Not to mention he's above average in pass blocking. He's easily a top ten back when healthy.

Hunter is Gore-lite when he gets carries.

Regarding James, any rookie is unproven. What's your point? The guy has an enormous amount of potential.

The 49ers are much better as a group.
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Gore and JC are each team's #1s and will handle the bulk of the load, are they not?
If you are going to make this about JC vs. Gore, I won't argue. I would take JC hands down. But you can't honestly sit here and tell me that in the modern game you don't need depth at the rb position. Yes, the 1's still get a lot of carries, but the 2's and 3's still get a good number of carries. You have to have a two or three-headed monster in today's game, and I'm not exactly sold on Hillis.
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Chiefs have the best if everyones healthy, hands down.
Huge if. We are talking about the NFL, are we not? Rb's get hurt all the time, just ask JC.
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Huge if. We are talking about the NFL, are we not? Rb's get hurt all the time, just ask JC.
And so does Gore.
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And so does Gore.
Which is another reason why depth is so important.
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Huge if. We are talking about the NFL, are we not? Rb's get hurt all the time, just ask JC.
Yes we're talking about the ****ing NFL shitbag. Jamaal Charles damn near set the record for YPC in 2010. He's the best and our line is better now than then. I'd take him over ANYBODY out there. Oh and by the way HE'S NOT ****ING INJURED !
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The 49ers give you crushing power (Jacobs), elite gamebreaking speed (James), a workhorse (Gore) and a change of pace scatback (Hunter).

I love it.

The Chiefs don't quite have that complete a package, but it's pretty dang close.
Have you watched Jacobs lately? The power he once had is long gone. He's basically Thomas Jones now.
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Yes we're talking about the ****ing NFL shitbag. Jamaal Charles damn near set the record for YPC in 2010. He's the best and our line is better now than then. I'd take him over ANYBODY out there. Oh and by the way HE'S NOT ****ING INJURED !


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Your post shows it. The guy ran for 1200 yards last year, good for 6th in the league. He's had 1000 yard seasons, in 5 of his 7 seasons, and is a threat to catch the ball out of the backfield. Not to mention he's above average in pass blocking. He's easily a top ten back when healthy.

Hunter is Gore-lite when he gets carries.

Regarding James, any rookie is unproven. What's your point? The guy has an enormous amount of potential.

The 49ers are much better as a group.
I'd still rather have all those RBs I listed over Gore.

In the game of football, only one guy can carry the football at a time. If both Charles and Gore touch the ball 250 times in a season, the only thing that matters when comparing them is the talent. If Charles is the better back, then a huge chunk of each RB stable's total touches becomes affected.

Charles and Hillis are going to account for 90%+ of the Chiefs touches by RBs. I'd rather have those two guys toting the ball for me than a mixture of Gore, James, Hunter, and Jacobs.

Again, this is based on what we know now. If James or Hunter explode into elite RBs this season, then we're talking a completely different story. But from what we know from years past, Charles and Hillis as a combo are better than those four guys based solely on the distribution between the backs.
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