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Old 06-04-2012, 08:40 PM  
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Fla. Gov. Scott Kills the Innocence Commission to save $200,000

I think the first line of the article is my favorite...

He's really making a dent in that $70B state budget. Asshat.

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Florida holds the dubious honor of wrongfully convicting the largest number of innocent people put on death row. Since 1973, the Sunshine State wrongfully incarcerated and released twenty-three people set for a state sanctioned killing. And nationwide, 140 people in twenty-six states have been exonerated of the crimes for which they were convicted and sent to death row. If this tells independent voters anything, it’s that the criminal justice system is in desperate need of reform, with capital punishment leading the way.

It would seem that miscarriages of justice of such a magnitude would lead Florida policy makers and political leaders to take measures to ensure that number declines. Despite this grisly scenario, Florida Republican Governor Rick Scott recently eliminated the funding necessary to keep the Florida Innocence Commission alive. Created by the Florida Supreme Court, the commission is tasked with advocating for reforms after examining wrongful convictions by “studying false eyewitness identifications, interrogation techniques, false confessions, the use of informants, the handling of forensic evidence, attorney competence and conduct, the processing of cases and the administration of the death penalty.”

But with one stroke of the pen, Scott nixed the Commission by vetoing the funds the legislature appropriated for it – which last year stood at $200,000, a drop in the bucket for a state with a 2013 budget of about $70 billion. This isn’t the first time Scott meddled with attempts at reforming Florida’s criminal justice system. Earlier this year he vetoed a nearly unanimous piece of legislation (combined House and Senate vote 152-4 in favor) that would move non-violent drug offenders out of prison and into treatment programs after completing half of their sentence.

While Florida moves in reverse on remedying these problems, New York, Connecticut, New Jersey, New Mexico, and Illinois all eliminated the death penalty in the last five years, with Californians deciding this fall. This is no doubt a response to the alarming trend of those wrongfully convicted and sent to death row, only to be later exonerated. Moreover, the recent high profile cases of Corey Maye, who was released from death row after ten years, and Cameron Todd Willingham, a likely innocent man executed in 2004 in Texas, shed further light on the manifest need to eliminate capital punishment and alter the way we think about criminal justice.

As 18th century legal philosopher Cesare Beccaria put it in his renowned treatise, On Crimes and Punishments:

“The punishment of death is pernicious to society, from the example of barbarity it affords. If the passions, or necessity of war, have taught men to shed the blood of their fellow creatures, the laws which are intended to moderate the ferocity of mankind, should not increase it by examples of barbarity, the more horrible, as this punishment is usually attended with formal pageantry. Is it not absurd, that the laws, which detect and punish homicide, should, in order to prevent murder, publicly commit murder themselves?”

If there is one thing that people of all political persuasions and philosophies can agree on it should be this: the greatest and most serious deprivation of liberty that the government can engage in is killing its own citizens. If the government attempts to use this deprivation, it should be judged only by the strictest scrutiny and standards. There is no recourse for the wrongfully executed. If the death penalty is going to be used to carry out state sanctioned killings, shouldn’t we at least know whether the individual in question is actually guilty of the crime they are accused of committing?

Although Gov. Scott says the goal of his budget is to “reduce the size of government,” which I’m all for (even more so than Scott), maybe someone should tell him that the criminal justice system is part of the government. Trials, prosecutors, appeals, prisons, and prison guards all cost the taxpayers of Florida money, while more wrongful convictions mean more prisoners – leading to more prisons and corrections personnel, thereby increasing the size of government. In the final analysis, the scope of government cannot get any more intrusive than a seemingly uncritical belief in a process that gives the state the solemn power to extinguish the lives of its citizens – especially when accompanied by the elimination of a key mechanism for redress the wrongfully convicted once possessed against such an awesome power.
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Old 06-05-2012, 10:08 AM   #2
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Old 06-05-2012, 10:56 AM   #3
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Good to see a budget-minded governor.
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Old 06-05-2012, 02:45 PM   #4
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Old 06-05-2012, 03:13 PM   #5
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Why did this even exist? $200,000? What were their resources? $100K salary and a hamster in a cage?

The Innocence Project trumps this worthless waste of taxpayer money by a mile.
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Old 06-05-2012, 03:29 PM   #6
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They're looking at exponential savings by letting George Zimmerman out of jail and giving him a free pass to stop crime before it gets to death row.
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Old 06-05-2012, 04:31 PM   #7
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Florida more than makes up for this by releasing child molesters after a fraction of their sentence.
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Old 06-05-2012, 04:44 PM   #8
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Why did this even exist? $200,000? What were their resources? $100K salary and a hamster in a cage?

The Innocence Project trumps this worthless waste of taxpayer money by a mile.
What if attorney's worked the project pro bono? $200,000.00 could cover the cost of about 300 DNA tests.
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Old 06-05-2012, 05:44 PM   #9
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Good to see a budget-minded governor.
Yup! He's done a good job in that department.
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Old 06-05-2012, 06:32 PM   #10
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Good to see a budget-minded governor.
Ya! **** innocent people! Ya! **** em all! Hang high all the accused sons of bitches! In the public square! **** ya! Where's my godd*amn rope? Let's go Leroy!



You realize that literally tomorrow you could be snatched off the street and charged with a crime that carries a life sentence? Ok then. Carry on. I know you do, but you don't care. Cause it's not you. And hasn't impacted anyone you know. So who gives a ****, right?
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Ya! **** innocent people! Ya! **** em all! Hang high all the accused sons of bitches! In the public square! **** ya! Where's my godd*amn rope? Let's go Leroy!



You realize that literally tomorrow you could be snatched off the street and charged with a crime that carries a life sentence? Ok then. Carry on. I know you do, but you don't care. Cause it's not you. And hasn't impacted anyone you know. So who gives a ****, right?
If you really care about this, then come on down to live here and do something about it.
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Old 06-05-2012, 07:51 PM   #12
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If you really care about this, then come on down to live here and do something about it.
Really? I have to move down to FL to care about making sure only guilty people get put to death by the state?

seriously? do you really believe you live in reality? seriously.
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Ya! **** innocent people! Ya! **** em all! Hang high all the accused sons of bitches! In the public square! **** ya! Where's my godd*amn rope? Let's go Leroy!



You realize that literally tomorrow you could be snatched off the street and charged with a crime that carries a life sentence? Ok then. Carry on. I know you do, but you don't care. Cause it's not you. And hasn't impacted anyone you know. So who gives a ****, right?

Just wow. And some bogus commission stands between innocent Floridians and a rope? Get real.
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As if you have never commented on what goes on in the other 49 states you don't live in.

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Ya! **** innocent people! Ya! **** em all! Hang high all the accused sons of bitches! In the public square! **** ya! Where's my godd*amn rope? Let's go Leroy!



You realize that literally tomorrow you could be snatched off the street and charged with a crime that carries a life sentence? Ok then. Carry on. I know you do, but you don't care. Cause it's not you. And hasn't impacted anyone you know. So who gives a ****, right?
My family would gado what was necessary to gather the funds necessary to prove my innocence. Everyone has this right.

Remember, it is better to hang 10 innocent people than to let 1 guilty man free.
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