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Old 06-19-2012, 09:48 AM  
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Ron Jaworski's Top 30 QB's in the NFL

only up to 22 on the countdown so far

30. Tim Tebow
29. Blaine Gabbert
28. Christian Ponder
27. Matt Flynn
26. Matt Moore
25. Kevin Kolb
24. Ryan Fitzpatrick
23. Mark Sanchez
22. Matt Cassel
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Old 06-19-2012, 11:17 AM   #61
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and paid him a ton of $$$ to be their starter.
So what?
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Old 06-19-2012, 11:17 AM   #62
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Gabbert ahead of Tebow is just ridiculous.
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Old 06-19-2012, 11:19 AM   #63
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Uhhh....Montana?
Montana only had two for us. Try again. Sanchez has more than two playoff wins. Try again
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Old 06-19-2012, 11:19 AM   #64
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Gabbert ahead of Tebow is just ridiculous.
i agree.
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Old 06-19-2012, 11:19 AM   #65
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He's a really mediocre like 10 or so starters in the NFL right now. We both want someone else, but your stupid QB vs. QB scale of judging Cassel is a joke.
He is a bottom 1/3 QB. There's no question.

He allowed Tebow to come into Arrowhead and beat us by completing, what, 3 passes?

This is why he constantly fails against upper-echelon quarterbacks. He can't compete with what they produce.
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Old 06-19-2012, 11:20 AM   #66
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So what?
Are you really gonna ignore that? Expectations have not been met. Underperformers piss off fans on every team at every position. You pay a guy a bunch of money, you expect a return on your investment.
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Old 06-19-2012, 11:22 AM   #67
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Are you really gonna ignore that? Expectations have not been met. Underperformers piss off fans on every team at every position. You pay a guy a bunch of money, you expect a return on your investment.



so how much did you contribute to Cassels salary?
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Old 06-19-2012, 11:26 AM   #68
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so how much did you contribute to Cassels salary?
This is a dumb argument. I contributed by attending games. Which, btw, I vowed to not do until they change the QB. Look, I'm not one of those fans who bitches about everything.

On a side note, I find it ironic that you and Laz are calling Cassel detractors whiners considering how you guys always whine about the way Bill Self runs his KU basketball team.

Anyway, I tried to support Cassel. But it has become glaringly obvious that he is no better than an average to below average QB. If we, as fans, just accept that then nothing will ever change. I would like to witness the Chiefs win a Superbowl in my lifetime. How about you?
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Old 06-19-2012, 11:26 AM   #69
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i agree.
I mean Gabbert's ceiling is higher but damn Jaws that's some bullshit. Maybe since Gabbert is starting and he isn't? I suppose.
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Old 06-19-2012, 11:27 AM   #70
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So what?
If you're paid an exorbitant amount to do your job at a high level, and fail to do so, wouldn't you expect people to be unhappy with you?
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Old 06-19-2012, 11:29 AM   #71
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If you're paid an exorbitant amount to do you job at a high level, and fail to do so, wouldn't you expect people to be unhappy with you?
Only the people who pay you. Cassel's salary hasn't prevented the team from acquiring any player.
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Old 06-19-2012, 11:35 AM   #72
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This is a dumb argument. I contributed by attending games. Which, btw, I vowed to not do until they change the QB. Look, I'm not one of those fans who bitches about everything.

On a side note, I find it ironic that you and Laz are calling Cassel detractors whiners considering how you guys always whine about the way Bill Self runs his KU basketball team.

Anyway, I tried to support Cassel. But it has become glaringly obvious that he is no better than an average to below average QB. If we, as fans, just accept that then nothing will ever change. I would like to witness the Chiefs win a Superbowl in my lifetime. How about you?
Mother****er say what?

You have got to be kidding me?

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Old 06-19-2012, 11:35 AM   #73
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Only the people who pay you.
What about the people who buy season tickets? Don't they have a right to be upset. They're spending hundreds of dollars a yr. Some of that money goes towards his salary.
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Old 06-19-2012, 11:36 AM   #74
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Jaws is of course judging as a former QB & Cassel has all the intanglibles outside of talent. Sanchize should have been a DB. He can throw 5 picks & go set on the bench & have not a care
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This is a dumb argument. I contributed by attending games. Which, btw, I vowed to not do until they change the QB. Look, I'm not one of those fans who bitches about everything.

On a side note, I find it ironic that you and Laz are calling Cassel detractors whiners considering how you guys always whine about the way Bill Self runs his KU basketball team.

Anyway, I tried to support Cassel. But it has become glaringly obvious that he is no better than an average to below average QB. If we, as fans, just accept that then nothing will ever change. I would like to witness the Chiefs win a Superbowl in my lifetime. How about you?
I have given up hope.. Been following this team since 1988... We arent any closer to a superbowl team now than we were 20+ years ago...

Just a few reasons we will never win a superbowl Cassel, Crennel, Hunt, crappy fanbase that doesnt want a franchise QB, Shitty drafts, the list goes on and on...
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