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Old 06-19-2012, 09:48 AM  
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Old 06-19-2012, 03:59 PM   #151
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Nailed it.

These QBs don't win SBs.
These QBs shouldn't be starters in this league.
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Old 06-19-2012, 04:00 PM   #152
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27 and 7 and a pro bowl is a good place to start.
What were his stats last year? Or the year prior to his "pro bowl" year?
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Old 06-19-2012, 04:00 PM   #153
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These QBs shouldn't be starters in this league.
Hate to break it to you but there are only so many Mannings and Bradys to go around. Not every team gets a super star qb
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Old 06-19-2012, 04:01 PM   #154
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27 and 7 and a pro bowl is a good place to start.
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Old 06-19-2012, 04:02 PM   #155
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Old 06-19-2012, 04:02 PM   #156
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Old 06-19-2012, 04:02 PM   #157
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What were his stats last year? Or the year prior to his "pro bowl" year?
First year and Mike Solari.

Third different OC, multiple key injuries, insane HC
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Hate to break it to you but there are only so many Mannings and Bradys to go around. Not every team gets a super star qb
Yes, but it doesn't mean we should be content with the shit stain we have.
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Old 06-19-2012, 04:05 PM   #159
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Old 06-19-2012, 04:06 PM   #160
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Yes, but it doesn't mean we should be content with the shit stain we have.
Well, he's not that bad.
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Old 06-19-2012, 04:08 PM   #161
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First year and Mike Solari.

Third different OC, multiple key injuries, insane HC
That excuse works for year 1, not year 3. Insane HC has nothing to do with averaging 1 TD a game and less than 200 yards a game. If you take out the game where he lit it up against the vaunted Colts his numbers would be even worse. To use the Charles's and Moeaki's injuries to justify that horrible production from him says alot. A good QB can overcome that, Cassel gets excuses made for him.
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True, but there are only so many elite QBs to go around.
Those are the only teams to be taken seriously. It's a QB league. If you have a franchise QB, you're competing for Lombardis. If you have a game managing QB, you're competing for a franchise QB. Until then, there's always next year, as they say.
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That excuse works for year 1, not year 3. Insane HC has nothing to do with averaging 1 TD a game and less than 200 yards a game. If you take out the game where he lit it up against the vaunted Colts his numbers would be even worse. To use the Charles's and Moeaki's injuries to justify that horrible production from him says alot. A good QB can overcome that, Cassel gets excuses made for him.
He had everything going against him last year. Internal struggles, injuries, third different offense. His OC was falling asleep in the booth DURING games. Everything was stacked against him, doomed to fail from the start. Only about three or four other guys would've been able to overcome that.
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He had everything going against him last year. Internal struggles, injuries, third different offense. His OC was falling asleep in the booth DURING games. Everything was stacked against him, doomed to fail from the start. Only about three or four other guys would've been able to overcome that.
He lit it up against Indy though in spite of all that. Just like his 27 and 7 year, he lit it up against the worst teams in the league. When he played against good teams he played like crap and his defenders made excuses for him.
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