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Old 06-22-2012, 08:23 PM   #1
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Old 06-24-2012, 01:15 AM   #2
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Private trackers + Peerblock + encryption turned on.

They can still monitor bandwidth usage and what IP you're connected to, obviously, but they can't see what you're doing with it.
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Old 06-24-2012, 08:12 AM   #3
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Private trackers + Peerblock + encryption turned on.

They can still monitor bandwidth usage and what IP you're connected to, obviously, but they can't see what you're doing with it.
Dude, its still a ****ing datagram, if the ISP and or the government wants to look at what is in that packet, they can easily. You are using an access point that they totally own. GEEEEZZZ
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Old 07-10-2012, 12:19 PM   #4
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Dude, its still a ****ing datagram, if the ISP and or the government wants to look at what is in that packet, they can easily. You are using an access point that they totally own. GEEEEZZZ
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none of that does anything about your ISP ... they can see everything.
How is an ISP supposed to see what you're downloading? Yes they can put packet sniffers on the line but that's not going to be much help with encrypted traffic. Obviously the bandwidth pattern will indicate torrenting but they have no way of knowing whether it's legit. There are a number of legit uses for torrents, how are they going to tell the difference?

Typically, the C&D letters are coming from the copyright holders, who hire people to go on public trackers and monitor all of the IPs uploading files they hold a copyright on. They then send notice to the ISP that sends the C&D to the customer. None of that will work on a private tracker.

So again, how would they know what you're downloading? The news articles mention some mysterious new countermeasure, but none of them give any details. The whole thing sounds like a scare tactic to me.
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Old 07-10-2012, 05:47 PM   #5
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How is an ISP supposed to see what you're downloading? Yes they can put packet sniffers on the line but that's not going to be much help with encrypted traffic. Obviously the bandwidth pattern will indicate torrenting but they have no way of knowing whether it's legit. There are a number of legit uses for torrents, how are they going to tell the difference?

Typically, the C&D letters are coming from the copyright holders, who hire people to go on public trackers and monitor all of the IPs uploading files they hold a copyright on. They then send notice to the ISP that sends the C&D to the customer. None of that will work on a private tracker.

So again, how would they know what you're downloading? The news articles mention some mysterious new countermeasure, but none of them give any details. The whole thing sounds like a scare tactic to me.
no offense dude but please reread post #27. No matter who you are, there is always someone smarter than yourself.
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Old 06-24-2012, 09:36 AM   #6
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Private trackers + Peerblock + encryption turned on.

They can still monitor bandwidth usage and what IP you're connected to, obviously, but they can't see what you're doing with it.
none of that does anything about your ISP ... they can see everything.
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Old 06-24-2012, 09:46 AM   #7
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none of that does anything about your ISP ... they can see everything.
Working with some of the best techs in the world the last two years has taught me that techs with a little bit of knowledge way overestimate their capabilites and underestimate the capabilites of others for say........... payback and subturfuge.
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Old 06-25-2012, 08:17 AM   #8
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Private trackers + Peerblock + encryption turned on.

They can still monitor bandwidth usage and what IP you're connected to, obviously, but they can't see what you're doing with it.
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Old 06-25-2012, 02:19 AM   #9
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Old 06-25-2012, 07:25 AM   #10
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Old 06-25-2012, 07:59 AM   #11
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Old 06-25-2012, 05:31 PM   #12
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Old 06-25-2012, 05:57 PM   #13
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see post #22.
Post #22 doesn't say anything about it.
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Huh. I figured they already did this, anyway.
So uh, what the **** am I suppose to be seeing here?
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