Chiefs Would you pay Bowe $120-130M for 8 years? - Page 15

**jAZ** · 07-08-2012, 07:31 PM

According to...

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Evan Silva ‏@evansilva

RT @ChiefsOrioles12 Do the Chiefs get Bowe signed long term before the 16th? ... Doubt it. Believed to be seeking big-time money.

Which means...
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...act-with-lions

Johnson is scheduled to earn close to $130 million over the next eight seasons, including $113.5 million over the final seven years of the deal, league sources told NFL Network insider Jason La Canfora.

The contract includes $4.5 million in an existing roster bonus that's due on the final year of his rookie deal.

The deal also includes $53 million in guaranteed money, with Johnson's $1.25 million base salary in 2012 guaranteed, and $36 million due in signing and option bonuses. According to La Canfora, $11.5 million in future salary is guaranteed for injury only.

The contract makes Johnson -- who scorched the NFL with 96 catches for 1,681 yards and 16 touchdowns in 2011 -- the highest-paid wide receiver in league history, surpassing the eight-year, $120 million deal that Larry Fitzgerald signed with the Arizona Cardinals before last season.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 07-09-2012, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

He's not going to get paid like Fitz or Megatron, but Bowe is a #1 WR, and he should get paid like one.

Exactly. If he's stuck on those figures it's because he wants out of town. Plain and simple. A 5-6 year deal worth 11-12 a year with half of it guaranteed should be pretty easy to get done if he has any interest in playing here.

Chiefnj2 · 07-09-2012, 01:13 PM

Calvin got 50 guaranteed.
Fitz was between 42 and 50 guaranteed. Article I saw said 42, but there was an additional 8 "hidden" somewhere.

D. Jax gets 35 or so guaranteed in the first 3 years.

Bowe should be offered 38-40 guaranteed for the first 3 years, and then a reasonable base salary for year 4.

**BigMeatballDave** · 07-09-2012, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

He's not going to get paid like Fitz or Megatron, but Bowe is a #1 WR, and he should get paid like one.

I agree.

6 or 60.

35+ guaranteed.

**DeezNutz** · 07-09-2012, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

I agree.

6 for 60.

35+ guaranteed.

Why do we care about the number of years and total dollars when they're immaterial?

The only thing that matters is guaranteed dollars, and what you've suggested sounds fine.

Chiefnj2 · 07-09-2012, 01:24 PM

1 week to get the long term deal done.

**Lzen** · 07-09-2012, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Thig Lyfe

I'd pay him that much if he could bring me Matt Cassel's scalp.

**Lzen** · 07-09-2012, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

6 years - $69 million with $35 million guaranteed. I'd do that in a heartbeat. I just don't think the guy is a contract player. I think he'll remain solid, and has years of production ahead of him.

I'd be all for that. The question is does Bowe go for it.

**BigMeatballDave** · 07-09-2012, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

1 week to get the long term deal done.

Yep.

This rule of not negotiating a new deal during the season is dumb.

At least they can Tag him again next year.

Quesadilla Joe · 07-09-2012, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

Yep.

This rule of not negotiating a new deal during the season is dumb.

At least they can Tag him again next year.

That rule will actually help the Chiefs work out a long term deal. It takes a lot of leverage away from Bowe. He can't threaten to hold out during training camp now. He either get s a deal worked out before the 15th or he's SOL until next offseason.

**BossChief** · 07-09-2012, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

He's not going to get paid like Fitz or Megatron, but Bowe is a #1 WR, and he should get paid like one.

His production is comparale to Megatron before last season.

One would think his agent would be fishing in the same area the last big one was caught.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

Exactly. If he's stuck on those figures it's because he wants out of town. Plain and simple. A 5-6 year deal worth 11-12 a year with half of it guaranteed should be pretty easy to get done if he has any interest in playing here.

Exactly my point.

Nobody knows right now what the demands are for both sides of negotiations.

Pioli has shown the ability to get fair market deals done with our players...if Bowe wants more than what's reasonable, he can choose to walk and test the waters as a 29 year old receiver next offseason...or he could gamble and get hurt.

Also, something that's gone unmentioned tmk is his injury status.

He left the finale with injury...is it fully healed? Does it have a chance of being a problem going forward?

That's something to factor in if we are talking 35 million in guaranteed cash.

**DeezNutz** · 07-09-2012, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

His production is comparale to Megatron before last season.

One would think his agent would be fishing in the same area the last big one was caught.

Johnson is viewed as a generational athlete/freak at the position. Bowe is not in this uber-elite class.

For some reason, you seem fixated on the total publicized dollar amount, which is irrelevant.

**BossChief** · 07-09-2012, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Johnson is viewed as a generational athlete/freak at the position. Bowe is not in this uber-elite class.

For some reason, you seem fixated on the total publicized dollar amount, which is irrelevant.

That's my point. He isn't in those guys class, but his first 5 years of production is and that's likely what his agent is using as his bait when he is fishing for a bigger deal than what makes sense.

Also, I know for a FACT that Bowe was pissed that he didnt get the exclusive brand of the franchise tag.

What does that tell you about his overinflated self worth?

Lets say Bowe wants a quasi "prorated" signing bonus thats equal to the % of stats he has in comparison to CJ in their 5 years in the league.

CJ
49 tds
5872 yards

Bowe
36 td
4927 yards

That means Bowe had roughly 85% of the yardage.

85% of 60 million is roughly 50 million.

He has roughly 75% of the tds...that equates to 45 million in guarantees.

So, let's throw out the 35 million in guarantees we are talking about and let's bump that up to between 45-50 million dollars in guarantees and a total of 100 over the same amount of years CJ got.

8 years, 100 million with 48 million guaranteed.

Would that be a contract you would applaud?

Personally, I think that's a spot on "educated guess" of what they are talking about behind closed doors in all of this.

Not sure Bowe is worth that type of deal, but we will see.

I think something between that deal and the one VJ got from Tampa would be fair, but it's hard to know what the demands are from each side.

**SAUTO** · 07-09-2012, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

Exactly. If he's stuck on those figures it's because he wants out of town. Plain and simple. A 5-6 year deal worth 11-12 a year with half of it guaranteed should be pretty easy to get done if he has any interest in playing here.

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Hammock Parties · 07-09-2012, 06:30 PM

If Bowe wants out of town, that's Pioli's fault, too.

**SAUTO** · 07-09-2012, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad King

If Bowe wants out of town, that's Pioli's fault, too.

Lol.
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