**** OFFICIAL 2012-2013 Kansas Basketball Repository Thread ****

[ArrowheadHawk]

Runner up last year. Lets take home the trophy this season.

Returning Players
So. PG Naadir Tharpe
So. G Christian Garrett
Jr. F Justin Wesley
Jr. G Niko Roberts
Sr. C Jeff Withey
Sr. G Elijah Johnson
Sr. G Travis Releford
Sr. F Kevin Young

Incoming Class
Fr. G Ben McLemore
Fr. F Jamari Traylor

**** F Perry Ellis
**** F Andrew White
*** F Zach Peters
*** G Anrio Adams
*** C Landen Lucas

Transfering Out
So. G Merv Lindsay

Recruits still possible
***** C Tony Parker
*** PG Nino Jackson
Przemek Karnow

New Coaches
Norm Roberts
Still one opening

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by sedated

Lol, yeah a strategy of "make easy buckets and deny easy buckets" is clearly flawed.

No offense, Laz, but you are a complete moron.

waaaaaaah,waaaaaaaaaaah

so first i was an idiot and wrong so you brought out stats but now you basically AGREE, but you just think it's a wise trade off

Self has clearly made the decision that the consistency of a basic 'pounding the paint' offense is better than the potential boom/bust of more developed offense with outside shooting. A basic bones offense leaves more time for concentrating on what Self really loves ... Defense.

That's fine, but it's also the reason we lose(if we lose) ... especially in the NCAA tourney.


no offense,sedated,but your a butthurt crybaby who can't handle the truth

[Mr. Laz]

@DraftExpress: Tyshawn Taylor looks like a steal for the Nets at 41. One of the most complete guards at this Summer League.
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[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by Laz

@DraftExpress: Tyshawn Taylor looks like a steal for the Nets at 41. One of the most complete guards at this Summer League.
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Summer leagues don't mean shit.........at any level for that matter.

Taylor needs to work on his shooting if he's going to be anything in the NBA.

[Silock]

He's had double figures in every game in the summer league so far . . .

[cmh6476]

Originally Posted by Wickedson

Lets go...

http://kansas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1384283

wow. With the Chiefs the night before (on my bday), I think this gives me reason to request vacation days for 11/12-11/14 and stay up most of the night after Chiefs to watch some bball. Take a nap in there somehwere, watch the KU game then the Dook game and recuperate on Wednesday.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Summer leagues don't mean shit.........at any level for that matter.

Taylor needs to work on his shooting if he's going to be anything in the NBA.

/signed

Rajon Rondo
Chauncy Billups
Russell Westbrook
etc etc etc

You don't have to be an elite shooter to be a superstar at pointguard... and I don't think anyone is expecting superstar from Tyshawn at this point.

I'm not comparing Tyshawn to those guys above, just pointing out you don't have to be an elite shooter to "be anything in the NBA"

[DJJasonp]

Originally Posted by Laz

@DraftExpress: Tyshawn Taylor looks like a steal for the Nets at 41. One of the most complete guards at this Summer League.
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I watched the game last night on NBA tv.......he looked good....had a nice fast-break dunk/and-one.

That said, watching those games is liking watching pick-up basketball games at a city park. It's at 100 mph, tons of turnovers, lots of selfishness.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Laz

Self has clearly made the decision that the consistency of a basic 'pounding the paint' offense is better than the potential boom/bust of more developed offense with outside shooting.

So you're now criticizing Self for developing an offense that is more sustainable and efficient (2 PT FGs, easy baskets) and less luck based (3 PTs) despite the fact that his teams are generally high percentage from behind the arc exactly because of that focus in the point. Logic!

A basic bones offense leaves more time for concentrating on what Self really loves ... Defense.

Yes, it's truly a bad thing to focus on defense on college basketball. The fact that we've been an elite team defensively for the last decade is truly what's holding us back. Holding us back from what, I'm not sure, considering we've been the best and most consistent program in the NCAA since he arrived.

That's fine, but it's also the reason we lose(if we lose) ... especially in the NCAA tourney.

No, the reason we lose in the NCAA tourney is because it's the NCAA tourney. The tournament is a crapshoot that eventually knocks out 63 out of 64 teams (or whatever it is these days) no matter how good you are. KU isn't always the best team, nor do the best teams always win.

no offense,sedated,but your a butthurt crybaby who can't handle the truth

The truth is that he's completely right and you're completely wrong (as usual) in spewing your nonsense.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by Zeke

/signed

Rajon Rondo
Chauncy Billups
Russell Westbrook
etc etc etc

You don't have to be an elite shooter to be a superstar at pointguard... and I don't think anyone is expecting superstar from Tyshawn at this point.

I'm not comparing Tyshawn to those guys above, just pointing out you don't have to be an elite shooter to "be anything in the NBA"

I think he can be a superstar. If he stays out of his own way.

Think he's capable of doing everything Russell Westbrook is. I don't recall Westbrook doing much at UCLA. Certainly not dominating like he is in the NBA.

And to be fair, he was streaky, but he hit some damn huge threes at KU.

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by Zeke

/signed

Rajon Rondo
Chauncy Billups
Russell Westbrook
etc etc etc

You don't have to be an elite shooter to be a superstar at pointguard... and I don't think anyone is expecting superstar from Tyshawn at this point.

I'm not comparing Tyshawn to those guys above, just pointing out you don't have to be an elite shooter to "be anything in the NBA"

2/3 players you mentioned are good shooters, with exception to Rondo.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

2/3 players you mentioned are good shooters, with exception to Rondo.

Billups became an adequate shooters later in his career.. They were NOT good shooters coming out of college, they were great because of what they did with the ball in their hands. We can certainly expand that list if you like:

Steve Nash, Kyrie Irving, Ty Lawson, John Wall, Raymond Felton, Tyreke Evans, Brandon Knight, Randy Foye, Jason Kidd.... Point guards in the NBA don't have to be excellent shooters. Many of them have gotten better after being in the NBA, but none of them are great shooters.

The point remains. Tyshawn needs to be stronger with the ball to make it in the NBA... if he sticks, the shooting will develop enough. If not he'll be a backup.

[sedated]

Originally Posted by Laz

no offense,sedated,but your a butthurt crybaby who can't handle the truth

you being wrong makes no difference to me, we are all entitled to our opinions. Just dont keep wondering why everyone laughs at you and calls you a moron.

KC Connection nailed it, so Im not going to go through the effort of reiterating everything he said.

Self is smart, Laz is dumb. Thats my opinion.

[cmh6476]

Originally Posted by cmh6476

wow. With the Chiefs the night before (on my bday), I think this gives me reason to request vacation days for 11/12-11/14 and stay up most of the night after Chiefs to watch some bball. Take a nap in there somehwere, watch the KU game then the Dook game and recuperate on Wednesday.

vacation days have been approved

[Ceej]

I plan on taking my grandma (who turns 70 this year) to her first KU BBALL game this year. She's never been. So, it'll be me, her, my stepdad and two uncles.

Dumb question --

It isn't harder getting your hands on 5 game tickets, is it?

When I've bought tickets it was normally 2 or 3.

[Ceej]

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