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Yes! 107 67.72%
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Old 07-12-2012, 02:07 PM   #1
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how on Earth can this be classified as not as serious?
It is pretty sad that betting, free tats, selling medals/trophies/NCAA apparel, and SMU are less important than child molestation in the NCAA's eyes.
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Old 07-12-2012, 02:30 PM   #2
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It is pretty sad that betting, free tats, selling medals/trophies/NCAA apparel, and SMU are less important than child molestation in the NCAA's eyes.
That's such a wildly ignorant statement.

It's. Not. Their. Job.

Ask any member of the NCAA and every last one of them will tell you that this is far more abhorrent than tattoos.

Now go ahead and ask a civil judge if he thinks the murderer trial down the hall is more critical to the continuation of polite society than the rent and possession case on their docket that day. I'm pretty sure I know the answer to that one, but tough shit - you're running the civil docket today, Judge. It's someone else's role to monitor the murder trials.

I swear to God, some people are simply incapable of engaging their brains right now. Even if the NCAA wanted to, there is nothing within their regulatory authority that allows them to punish a college for conduct committed by their employees, even employees associated with athletics, for non-athletic related activities. The NCAA does not have plenary police power here.
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Old 07-12-2012, 02:37 PM   #3
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That's such a wildly ignorant statement.

It's. Not. Their. Job.

Ask any member of the NCAA and every last one of them will tell you that this is far more abhorrent than tattoos.

Now go ahead and ask a civil judge if he thinks the murderer trial down the hall is more critical to the continuation of polite society than the rent and possession case on their docket that day. I'm pretty sure I know the answer to that one, but tough shit - you're running the civil docket today, Judge. It's someone else's role to monitor the murder trials.

I swear to God, some people are simply incapable of engaging their brains right now. Even if the NCAA wanted to, there is nothing within their regulatory authority that allows them to punish a college for conduct committed by their employees, even employees associated with athletics, for non-athletic related activities. The NCAA does not have plenary police power here.

Jimmies are rustled...

Kidding. TBF, I was just having a bit of fun. I am aware that the NCAA has no power in this matter and shouldn't. It is a legal issue with our criminal justice system. Personally, the people I've had interactions with that have worked throughout the NCAA are generally good people who would definitely fit what you wrote (the exception being aisle monitors/ushers. pricks). That being said, the NCAA does tend to get its priorities screwy in regards to student athlete benefits and regulations. That is what I was poking fun at sarcastically.
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Old 07-12-2012, 02:43 PM   #4
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That's such a wildly ignorant statement.

It's. Not. Their. Job.

Ask any member of the NCAA and every last one of them will tell you that this is far more abhorrent than tattoos.

Now go ahead and ask a civil judge if he thinks the murderer trial down the hall is more critical to the continuation of polite society than the rent and possession case on their docket that day. I'm pretty sure I know the answer to that one, but tough shit - you're running the civil docket today, Judge. It's someone else's role to monitor the murder trials.

I swear to God, some people are simply incapable of engaging their brains right now. Even if the NCAA wanted to, there is nothing within their regulatory authority that allows them to punish a college for conduct committed by their employees, even employees associated with athletics, for non-athletic related activities. The NCAA does not have plenary police power here.
What is so hard for some of you to understand about this?
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Old 07-12-2012, 02:49 PM   #5
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What is so hard for some of you to understand about this?
because it's not true

the NCAA has all the power it needs to limit PSU football as it pertains to the NCAA.

Now if Penn State want to stop being a member of the NCAA then it can do what it wants. Until then the NCAA can penalize them several different way.


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pretty sure that football coaches raping children in the football locker rule would fall under 'violating NCAA rules' of conduct.
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pretty sure that football coaches raping children in the football locker rule would fall under 'violating NCAA rules' of conduct.
You're probably wrong to assume that it does.
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Old 07-12-2012, 02:53 PM   #7
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You're probably wrong to assume that it does.
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Old 07-12-2012, 03:19 PM   #8
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I swear to God, some people are simply incapable of engaging their brains right now. Even if the NCAA wanted to, there is nothing within their regulatory authority that allows them to punish a college for conduct committed by their employees, even employees associated with athletics, for non-athletic related activities. The NCAA does not have plenary police power here.
This statement seems obvious, but after all the dumb analogies, it's almost enlightening. It went on for so long, people want the department flushed until PSU is 100% sure nothing remains from the cover-up, and an example should be made, etc... but, the good ole' boy in the good ole' boy network is gone, and the Department of Education is investigating PSU in regards to the Clery Act. My knee-jerk reaction was to vote yes, but reading the part about the DoE investigation provided the realization (or the 'duh' moment) that it's not in the NCAA's court.
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