Should Penn State Get the Death Penalty?

[Trivers]

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/481264...lege_football/


Looks like officials are going from Penn State to state pen. (Sorry, I couldn't help myself.)

What say ye? If so, for how long?

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Death Penalty? Maybe not. But I think a 2 or 3 year bowl ban and removal of any non-conference games scheduled in that span should be in order.

There should either be no penalty or the death penalty.

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by Dave

Please, they have a $1.7 billion endowment.

With that kind of cash. You should be able to cover up these rapes better than they did.

Whether they get penalties or not. The public humiliation factor will be pretty brutal. Best of luck to anyone who plays at rape U.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Laz

ignorance is not an excuse

as a collective institution, Penn State allowed multiple children to be raped on school grounds. Penn state continued to allow children to be raped by covering up previous rapes and by protecting the ACTIVE rapist.

A Criminal level of Lack of institutional control


If University can get punished for failing to stop coaches from breaking NCAA recruiting rules etc then it can get punished for this x100000000.

The death sentence leads to huge drops in alumni donations which destroys education. This is a state school. Punish lots of pa residents rely on tuition breaks to get a quality education for cheaper.

Don't punish the students. Punish the administrators who lied.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

It's almost as if the entire institution was lacking control. There's probably a better way to phrase that, but you get the idea.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

There should either be no penalty or the death penalty.

In all seriousness and not trying to entice hate here, but that sounds like the same reasoning jurors had for letting Casey Anthony off the hook.

Look, the NCAA won't ever use the death penalty for what it did: killed one school's program and lead to the demise of an entire conference.

That being said, I don't see why any reason why an organization with enough power to do just that to limit itself in doling out an effective punishment that does the minimum amount of damage to other institutions.

By eliminating any non-cons (which I presume to mean PSU would have to pay any school they've already agreed to use as a tune up game) you knock out some of the school's revenue, and with a postseason ban you make some recruits think a little bit harder on whether or not they go to school at (not so) Happy Valley. Also, a reduction in future scholarship offers might be in order too.

tl;dr: the death penalty goes too far in punishing a lot more than the school's administration, but a severe penalty still needs to be handed down.

[Dylan]

*WARNING, CURSING*

Story sent to me via email: Titled - **** Joe Paterno

Powerful storytelling: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/0...ease-read-lt-3


Hate the Web site.

[lcarus]

No. It isn't fair to a lot of people who had nothing to do with this. I think they should just punish those involved and move on.

[Dylan]

A good read written anonymously by 'Terry Smyth' Penn State alumni and employee at Penn State. Trying to explain the cult of Joe Paterno:

http://deadspin.com/5925143?utm_camp...ium=socialflow

[bigbucks24]

So if I own a car company, and I make faulty cars, and these cars malfunction and kill people, as long as I fire the people that designed the cars, I can't be held accountable? Because suing me and my company would be a burden to innocent people, like the janitor?

[BigRock]

Originally Posted by bigbucks24

So if I own a car company, and I make faulty cars, and these cars malfunction and kill people, as long as I fire the people that designed the cars, I can't be held accountable? Because suing me and my company would be a burden to innocent people, like the janitor?

Exactly. Why should the whole unversity have to pay? Take it up with the guilty party and only the guilty party.

It's the humane thing to do.

Signed,
Graham Spanier, Tim Curley, and Joe Paterno

[Extra Point]

Fatlock's take: http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefoot...over-up-071212 . Nice dig on a former co-worker, the Poz.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by bigbucks24

So if I own a car company, and I make faulty cars, and these cars malfunction and kill people, as long as I fire the people that designed the cars, I can't be held accountable? Because suing me and my company would be a burden to innocent people, like the janitor?

That's a great analogy and all, except the people within the program who were responsible for the raping or cover up are being held accountable for it or dead (depending on if you think McQueary should be charged or not) and there's a difference between holding a entity financially reliable for negligent behavior and trying to shut it down. There's also a difference between a for-profit business and a learning institution.

I'm failing to see how taking away opportunities to kids that had nothing to do with this problem would help the situation.

[chiefzilla1501]

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Originally Posted by bigbucks24

So if I own a car company, and I make faulty cars, and these cars malfunction and kill people, as long as I fire the people that designed the cars, I can't be held accountable? Because suing me and my company would be a burden to innocent people, like the janitor?

This is a state school. Punish who do you think pays the penalty?

Taxpayers.

You are talking about a decision that is going to result in millions upon millions in alumni donation losses. That affects millions of taxpayers, hundreds of employed faculty, and and thousands of students who rely on in state tuition to get a quality education affordably.. Those responsible should get the hammer thrown down. Psu should get a penalty harsher than USC.. Affected families should get millions in settlements. That's pretty harsh as is.. There are millions affected by a death penalty that had nothing to do with this.

[Predarat]

GAZ

[ChiefRocka]

Originally Posted by Laz

receiving penalties from elsewhere is irrelevant, the NCAA needs to penalize them

if nothing else, to set a basic standard for moral decency

sadly, i not sure the NCAA has any moral decency left from which to judge.

So I take it you're for ObamaCare??