KK wrong about success of ASG

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

The possibility for increased attendance and creating a better overall family experience complete with hotels, retail shopping, restraunts and *gasp* bars is greater with a downtown stadium vs what the Royals have now is all completely correct.

Again with the increased attendance? Will it come from the half a million people that don't work or live downtown? Either way, the vast majority of fans will have to drive to the stadium, regardless of where it is at. Some people keep ignoring this. And nothing says family atmosphere like walking through a crowded downtown at 10 pm with a bunch alcohol fueled people who were at the game or just all the people in the area for drinking and partying at the bars. For all the people you may attract to a downtown stadium you will lose just as many who want nothing to do with the traffic or atmosphere.

I will say what I said earlier, I don't necessarily think the whole idea of a downtown stadium is a bad idea, but let's not pretend everyone that currently goes to games would continue to do so resulting in some dramatic attendance increase. Winning will do more for attendance than anything.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

Again with the increased attendance? Will it come from the half a million people that don't work or live downtown? Either way, the vast majority of fans will have to drive to the stadium, regardless of where it is at. Some people keep ignoring this. And nothing says family atmosphere like walking through a crowded downtown at 10 pm with a bunch alcohol fueled people who were at the game or just all the people in the area for drinking and partying at the bars. For all the people you may attract to a downtown stadium you will lose just as many who want nothing to do with the traffic or atmosphere.

I will say what I said earlier, I don't necessarily think the whole idea of a downtown stadium is a bad idea, but let's not pretend everyone that currently goes to games would continue to do so resulting in some dramatic attendance increase. Winning will do more for attendance than anything.

I realize the situation is a little different, but Busch stadium is downtown STL and while you are always going to have your drunken idiots, I've never noticed it being a problem.


You don't have to have bars all around the stadium, just restaurants and etc within walking distance would make a big deal.