Prisco - Chiefs will go 6-10

[Chronic]

Originally Posted by PGM

So, the Chiefs go 1-5 in the division and get swept by Denver and Oakland riiiiiight

They go 5-5 against this mythical, super, tough, impossible out of division schedule and go 1-5 against this sorry ass division.

The Chiefs got swept by the Raiders 2 years ago- in 2010, ...you know,... that's the year everybody on this board thinks the Chiefs will recapture

[Messier]

Originally Posted by Chronic

The Chiefs got swept by the Raiders 2 years ago- in 2010, ...you know,... that's the year everybody on this board thinks the Chiefs will recapture

The Chiefs are better than the Raiders.

[Chronic]

Originally Posted by Messier

The Chiefs are better than the Raiders.

They didn't prove that on the field last year, and they haven't proved that this year..... yet, so until then.. it's all unicorns and glitter for Chief fans

And spare me the injury crap.. the Raiders lost both their RB and QB too, as well as WR's etc and finished higher than the Chiefs.. in fact they beat the Chiefs in week 16 in Arrowhead, Chiefs had every opportunity to win that game and didnt

[Messier]

Originally Posted by Chronic

They didn't prove that on the field last year, and they haven't proved that this year..... yet, so until then.. it's all unicorns and glitter for Chief fans

And spare me the injury crap.. the Raiders lost both their RB and QB too, as well as WR's etc and finished higher than the Chiefs.. in fact they beat the Chiefs in week 16 in Arrowhead, Chiefs had every opportunity to win that game and didnt

Yes they did. You only mentioned the blocked field goal game, not the 28-0 game, so they did prove it on the field, and spare me the Boller, and Palmers first game crap.

This years Raiders team is gutted, and the Chiefs team is improved so, how are the Raiders better?

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Messier

Yes they did. You only mentioned the blocked field goal game, not the 28-0 game, so they did prove it on the field, and spare me the Boller, and Palmers first game crap.

What?

We won that game solely because of Kyle Boller.

Our offense wasn't good.

The Raiders own us hard the last two years. We need to PROVE otherwise. Not this "lololol we have talent bros" bullshit.

[Easy 6]

I dont give a fart in the wind about Palmer, oakland is a team in serious transition, brand new from the top down & missing several key players from years past... they're pretty much entering the same phase we went through with Piolis arrival & institution of a brand new program.

We're going to sweep their incohesive, talent depleted asses... bet on it.

[Messier]

Originally Posted by Toad King

What?

We won that game solely because of Kyle Boller.

Our offense wasn't good.

The Raiders own us hard the last two years. We need to PROVE otherwise. Not this "lololol we have talent bros" bullshit.

I maintain the Chiefs D was on that day, and the Raiders would have been out of luck at full strength. Boller was awful, Palmer was awful, our D was really good.

[Chronic]

Originally Posted by Messier

This years Raiders team is gutted, and the Chiefs team is improved so, how are the Raiders better?

They said the same thing 2 years ago when the Raiders let Asomugha leave, Gallery left, Zach Miller, new coach in Hue Jackson etc blah, blah, blah...

Didn't affect the team one bit.. in fact they were better for it

Routt cost us 2 games because of his knuckleheaded decisions to PI WR's.. yes, he cost the Raiders 2 games and the AFC West title because he gets juked by WR on a constant basis.. you'll see soon enough

Kam Wimbley had 7 sacks last year.. 4 came in 1 game vs the Chargers against a backup filler tackle... lets not try and put Wimbley in the Lawrence Taylor circle mkay?

Raiders are better- they get back McFadden, Palmer now has a full training camp.. (And by the way, you take away his 1st game agaisnt the Chiefs where he had 2 days to learn the playbook, and Palmer finishes with a 86% QB rating.. putting him in the top 10 of the NFL last year) They beefed up the OL in signing Brisiel from the Texans who was a big reason why Arian Foster got those yards, in fact 68% of Fosters runs were behind Brisiel- They get back DE Matt Shaughnessey who had a great rookie year... Signed DE Tollefson from the Giants, picked up vet CB's, signed Branch to a long term deal..

Right now the Chiefs have just as many question marks as everybody else in the division but for some reason you failed to accept those things

1) Like, a new OC who has failed every place he's been

2) A raw, inexperienced center that's never even played the position before..

3) A RB coming off a torn ACL.. whom some say is not even 100% yet

4) a # 1 WR that might possibly holdout

And finally

5) Probably the worst QB in the NFL

Originally Posted by scott free

We're going to sweep their incohesive, talent depleted asses... bet on it.

Not with Cassell taking snaps you wont- If you woulda traded for Palmer.. I'd say there's a very good chance you could and might even give the Chiefs a nod to win the division

The Chiefs simply are doing one thing wrong

"Masking"

Masking the inabilities of the most important part of a football team

The QB

[whoman69]

Originally Posted by Chronic

They said the same thing 2 years ago when the Raiders let Asomugha leave, Gallery left, Zach Miller, new coach in Hue Jackson etc blah, blah, blah...

Didn't affect the team one bit.. in fact they were better for it

Routt cost us 2 games because of his knuckleheaded decisions to PI WR's.. yes, he cost the Raiders 2 games and the AFC West title because he gets juked by WR on a constant basis.. you'll see soon enough

Kam Wimbley had 7 sacks last year.. 4 came in 1 game vs the Chargers against a backup filler tackle... lets not try and put Wimbley in the Lawrence Taylor circle mkay?

Raiders are better- they get back McFadden, Palmer now has a full training camp.. (And by the way, you take away his 1st game agaisnt the Chiefs where he had 2 days to learn the playbook, and Palmer finishes with a 86% QB rating.. putting him in the top 10 of the NFL last year) They beefed up the OL in signing Brisiel from the Texans who was a big reason why Arian Foster got those yards, in fact 68% of Fosters runs were behind Brisiel- They get back DE Matt Shaughnessey who had a great rookie year... Signed DE Tollefson from the Giants, picked up vet CB's, signed Branch to a long term deal..

Right now the Chiefs have just as many question marks as everybody else in the division but for some reason you failed to accept those things

1) Like, a new OC who has failed every place he's been

2) A raw, inexperienced center that's never even played the position before..

3) A RB coming off a torn ACL.. whom some say is not even 100% yet

4) a # 1 WR that might possibly holdout

And finally

5) Probably the worst QB in the NFL



Not with Cassell taking snaps you wont- If you woulda traded for Palmer.. I'd say there's a very good chance you could and might even give the Chiefs a nod to win the division

The Chiefs simply are doing one thing wrong

"Masking"

Masking the inabilities of the most important part of a football team

The QB

Backup the truck. One of your big negatives against the Chiefs is a RB coming off injury when the Raiders have a brokedick who's always injured but that's not a negative.

You have a total unknown at HC because the Raider job is considered poison. You give Daboll no credit for turning around the Dolphin's season last year.

Raiders are another year older while the Chiefs are the youngest team in the league. Raiders lost several key players to the cap.

The Raiders are better for Al Davis being out of the way, but will the younger Davis just turn into another all controlling owner?

I think if the Raiders get 4 wins this year, its a success.

[Chronic]

Originally Posted by whoman69

Backup the truck. One of your big negatives against the Chiefs is a RB coming off injury when the Raiders have a brokedick who's always injured but that's not a negative.

Ones coming off an ACL- the other a sprained foot

You have a total unknown at HC because the Raider job is considered poison.

Some would agree with the poison being when Al was alive.. however this is a new era- Al Davis has past- Reggie McKenzie- the ex-Director of player personel for the Packers is now GM- Some have said he's the best young talent evaluator in the league right now...

But to Al's credit

Gruden was an unknown when he went to the Raiders, so was HOF John Madden, so was Tom Flores who won 2 SB's as a Raiders coach

Al Davis won 3 SB's.. the Hunts won 1 back when there were like 8 teams and people were still dying of polio

Romeo was 24-40 as a HC- One is unproven (Dennis Allen) the other one is a proven loser (Romeo Crennel)

You give Daboll no credit for turning around the Dolphin's season last year.

The Dolphins got worse

Raiders are another year older while the Chiefs are the youngest team in the league. Raiders lost several key players to the cap.

Hmm.. I dunno bou't that...

That OL avg age is 24
RB McFadden- 24
RB - Taiwan Jones - 23
RB - Mike Goodson - 25
FB - Marcel Reece - 27
WR Jacoby Ford - 24
WR Denarious Moore -23
WR- Heyward -Bey -25
WR- Juron Criner - 22
QB - Palmer - 32
TE David Ausberry - 23
TE Brandon Meyers - 26

DE- Matt Shuagnessy - 25
DE - Lamarr Houston - 25
DT - Tommy Kelly - 30
DT-Richard Seymour -32
DT- Desmond Bryant - 26
DT - Christo Biliukidi - 23
DT - Travis Ivy - 25
OLB Phillip Wheeler - 27
MLB - Ro McClain - 23
OLB Aaron Curry - 26
LB - Travis Goethel - 25
LB - Miles Burris - 24
CB - Demarcus Van Dyke - 23
CB - Chemdi Chekwa - 23
CB - Ron Bartell - 29
CB - Shawntee Spencer - 30
CB - Conroy Black - 23
S - Tyvone Branch - 25
S- Michael Huff - 28
S -Matt Giodano - 29
S -Aaron Henry - 23
S- Brandon Underwood - 26


The above proves 1 thing

You're a confused individual

I think if the Raiders get 4 wins this year, its a success.

Yeah, okay.....

[Brock]

Originally Posted by Chronic

Raiders are better- they get back McFadden, Palmer now has a full training camp.. (And by the way, you take away his 1st game agaisnt the Chiefs where he had 2 days to learn the playbook, and Palmer finishes with a 86% QB rating.. putting him in the top 10 of the NFL last year) They beefed up the OL in signing Brisiel from the Texans who was a big reason why Arian Foster got those yards, in fact 68% of Fosters runs were behind Brisiel- They get back DE Matt Shaughnessey who had a great rookie year... Signed DE Tollefson from the Giants, picked up vet CB's, signed Branch to a long term deal..

You're quite a homer.

[Sofa King]

Originally Posted by Chronic

The Chiefs got swept by the Raiders 2 years ago- in 2010, ...you know,... that's the year everybody on this board thinks the Chiefs will recapture

I'm still asking why this turd isn't banned.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Chronic

The Chiefs got swept by the Raiders 2 years ago- in 2010, ...you know,... that's the year everybody on this board thinks the Chiefs will recapture

And? The Chiefs swept you sorry assholes 8-0 during the Vermeil and Herm years.

I'm not sure I understand your point. It's just really raw and undeveloped.