2013 QB Prospects

[Direckshun]

Below are no fewer than SIX quarterbacks to which I've given either "1st round" or "borderline 1st" grades.

Tyler Wilson, Arkansas

Logan Thomas, Virginia Tech

Matt Barkley, USC

Tyler Bray, Tennessee (relatively unlikely he declares)

Aaron Murray, Georgia (relatively unlikely he declares)

Landry Jones, Oklahoma

Now it should be noted: with the rookie wage scale, it's preferable for QB prospects to just get into the pros whenever they can, rather than biding their time and trying to compete for a Top 5 selection. The Top 5 used to mean you were in a top 10% earner in the NFL. Now it doesn't mean much over somebody like Tannehill's #8 spot, financially.

QB hungry teams in 2013 are bolded.

Patriots -- Brady/Mallett
Bills -- Fitzpatrick
Jets -- Sanchez/Tebow
Dolphins -- Tannehill

Browns -- Weeden
Steelers -- Rothlisberger
Ravens -- Flacco
Bengals -- Dalton

Colts -- Luck
Texans -- Schaub
Jaguars -- Gabbert/Henne
Titans -- Hasselbeck/Locker

Chiefs -- Cassel
Chargers -- Rivers
Broncos -- Manning/Osweiler
Raiders -- Palmer

Cowboys -- Romo
Giants -- Manning
Redskins -- Griffin
Eagles -- Vick

Packers -- Rodgers
Vikings -- Ponder
Lions -- Stafford
Bears -- Cutler

Panthers -- Newton
Falcons -- Ryan
Buccaneers -- Freeman
Saints -- Brees

Cardinals -- Kolb
Rams -- Bradford
49ers -- Smith/Kaepernick
Seahawks -- Flynn/Wilson

6 teams that will need a QB. Maybe eight if you buy the idea that the Cowboys or Eagles could be shopping for a new one.

So assuming at least half of those QBs declare, which is a relatively conservative bet, my prediction is that the Chiefs will be drafting a new quarterback in 2013. Even if it means having to trade up for one.

[gohogs14]

Originally Posted by Sorter

Understandable views. Personally, I have a bias against USC QBs named Matt. I also think that the injury status of Bray is something that can be fixed with via weights + developing as a QB(getting the ball out quicker).

What I like about him is elite arm strength, command, pro-style offense, makes pretty good reads, and good footwork. Yes, he did play poorly for most of last year but he has some great flashes. Watch some tape; he is definitely better than Landry Jones, who somehow has a 1st round grade. I do think Tyler Wilson and Geno Smith are better prospects and would gladly take those two over Bray. This is a big year for him.

The reason I really like Wilson and Smith is because they elevated the level of their teammates. Without Wilson last year, Adams probably is a 5th round pick and Childs/Wright are probably UDFA who would be lucky to make a team, IMO.

Well the major reason Adams was picked so high is for his added value on PR...and Childs actually had a better year with Mallett and was a projected 1st-2nd round pick before his injury

I would love for Wilson to go to the Chiefs but i think unless he has a horrible year he wont be there when they pick

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by gohogs14

Well the major reason Adams was picked so high is for his added value on PR...and Childs actually had a better year with Mallett and was a projected 1st-2nd round pick before his injury

I would love for Wilson to go to the Chiefs but i think unless he has a horrible year he wont be there when they pick

I think Childs bad year was reflective of his injury. I definitely think that Wilson is the 2nd QB off the board, unless Murray declares and has an outstanding season.

[Okie_Apparition]

Total

[saphojunkie]

I'm sorry, I still say there is zero chance the Jaguars come back and draft a QB in the first round again, unless Blaine Gabbert stops going to practice. The guy was a top 10 pick who struggled in his rookie season with zero talent around him. You think you cut your 10th overall pick after two years? Won't happen.

Anyone else think that the Jets and Chiefs will be in a staring competition to see who blinks first and gambles with another USC quarterback?

[Dante84]

Highlight video. I like Bray's arm strength and accuracy on the deep balls. Looks like he stands and delivers in the pocket.

Physically, he reminds me of Rivers, minus the fruity side arm and the bitch-boy face.

He will be fun to watch this season, especially playing against future NFL caliber defenders.

[Bewbies]

Bray is accurate with beer bottles and golf balls.

http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-georgia...dalizing-cars/

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by Bewbies

Bray is accurate with beer bottles and golf balls.

http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-georgia...dalizing-cars/

She told police that Bray and Grandinetti had thrown beer bottles off a balcony and onto vehicles in the parking lot, the Associated Press reported. The report quotes her as saying an office manager for the complex told her Bray and Grandinetti had been “served with an eviction notice just prior to her arriving home.”

yikes. Might be a red flag or two there for Bray?

[Bewbies]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

yikes. Might be a red flag or two there for Bray?

All those losses have the boosters cutting his pay.

[tomahawkchop25]

i want wilson. don't care if it takes an rg3 type haul. i will absolutely flip my crap if they don't take a qb in the 1st. i will flip my crap even more if they take landry jones. he's awful. i hate him. don't like barkley either.

[Saccopoo]

Just to let you know, I'm pimping this guy with a passion for this next draft:



This guy had defenders in his face all game long against one of the best defensive units in college last year and went for nearly 500 yards.

Geno Smith is an absolute stud with a wicked fast release, kick ass work ethic, good athlete, etc.

If he has another season like last year where he threw for approx. 4500 yards and 30 something touchdowns, he'll be first round material.

[Sorter]

Definitely some good stuff in that game from Geno. I like Wilson more, but would be thrilled with either Murray or Smith. Would like those two over Bray. Haven't watched Logan Thomas enough to make any kind of assessment. However, I doubt that Murray or Bray come out this year.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Sorter

Definitely some good stuff in that game from Geno. I like Wilson more, but would be thrilled with either Murray or Smith. Would like those two over Bray. Haven't watched Logan Thomas enough to make any kind of assessment. However, I doubt that Murray or Bray come out this year.

Geno Smith has a lot of Sam Bradford to his game with, perhaps, a better arm.

He's put up stellar numbers the past two years:

2011:

Att/Comp: 346-526
Yards: 4385
Comp %: 65.8
YPP: 8.34
Long: 84
TDs: 31
Ints: 7
Rating: 152.6



2010:
Att/Comp: 241/372
Yards: 2763
Comp %: 64.8
YPP: 7.43
Long: 71
TDs: 24
Ints: 7
Rating: 144.7

He's supposedly a film junkie with a terrific work ethic.

West Virginia gets a lot of pub for it's defense, but Smith is a very, very good player with a ton of potential.

Smith, tabbed as the conference's Preseason Offensive Player of the Year, is coming off an electric season in which he led the Mountaineers to a 10-3 record, including a 70-33 thumping of Clemson in the Orange Bowl.

Smith threw for 407 yards and six touchdowns with no interceptions in the team's season finale, capping his All-Big East junior campaign.

Mountaineers coach Dana Holgorsen said even though Smith is likely to rack up impressive stats -- he threw for 4,385 yards and 31 touchdowns in 2011 -- he is likely to be remembered for what his team was able to accomplish.

"He's progressed and he's got a chance to be pretty good," Holgorsen said. "He stacks up with a lot of other guys I've had in the past. He's going to be remembered for how many games he can win, and Geno's got the ability to make everybody else around him better."

In addition to his preseason Big 12 accolades, Smith has garnered national attention as he was selected to the Walter Camp Award and Maxwell Award watch lists.

Both prizes are given annually to the top player in college football. However, Smith said he hasn't let any of the hype impact his psyche.

"I haven't taken any thought into it," Smith said. "I don't let it affect me in any way. I'm not going to walk around here and boast as if it's some major accomplishment. The only thing that I'm worried about is winning games."

[Sorter]

Awesome. I like Geno quite a bit as a draft pick. I'll watch some film in a couple of weeks and post my thoughts. With a quality year + if Wilson is struggling w/out Petrino (unlikely to be a severe drop-off IMO, but possible), it is plausible he moves ahead of Wilson. Food for thought.

[Chiefnj2]

After week 1, I'd say:

Stock Same: Barkley, Smith, Wilson and Bray. (They all did well against inferior competition).

Stock Falling: Logan and Jones.

[Chiefnj2]

Week 3 analysis from gbnreport.com

The college football world got stood on its head over the weekend when Southern Cal was upset by Stanford 21-14. The expectations were that the Trojans were maybe the only team in the country capable of standing up to the eventual SEC champion in the BCS title game in January; however, USC’s road to Miami got a whole lot bumper with the loss. The loss to the Cardinal also may have had a major impact on the 2013 draft as Southern Cal QB Matt Barkley just didn’t look like a presumptive #1 pick overall. True, Barkley was under incredible pressure all night long from a swarming Stanford defense; however, there are whispers in the pro scouting community that Barkley, who never had a cannon of an arm to begin with, just hasn’t had the arm strength this season. As well, Barkley’s lack of athleticism and agility was also exposed by the Stanford pass rush. Bad as things were for Barkley, who completed just 20 of 41 passes against Stanford and had two passes picked off. In particular, Barkley has not been throwing the ball down the field and just isn’t getting g much zip on his passes underneath. In addition, even USC head coach Lane Kiffin commented after the game that Barkely just wasn‘t making very good decisions in the pocket. And while it still may be a little early to write off Barkley as a potential #1 pick at the upcoming draft, he’s no longer considered to be a lock to be the first player taken this coming April.

In fact, its possible that what was supposed to be the Year of the QB regarding the 2013 draft appears to be rapidly going south. In addition to Barkley’s woes, pro scouts are quietly worried about the long-term of health of Arkansas QB Tyler Wilson, who had been considered to be a possible rival for Barkley to be the first player taken this year. Wilson did not play in the Hogs’ loss to Alabama last weekend because of a concussion he suffered in the team’s loss to Louisiana-Monroe the previous week. Of concern to NFL teams is the fact that Wilson also missed time in 2011 because of an earlier head injury.

It has also been a tough start to the year for Virginia Tech junior QB Logan Thomas, who was seen as a dark horse candidate to be a very early pick this year. At least physically, Thomas reminds scouts of Cam Newton the #1 pick at the 2011 who went on to become the first QB to ever throw for over 4,000 yards in his rookie season. The 6-5, 245-pound Thomas certainly looks the part; he also has the same kind of athleticism as Newton and can throw the ball threw a brick wall. However, Thomas just hasn’t shown much in the way of elite touch so far this fall as he has completed just 54% of his pass attempts to date. That included a dismal 14 for 31 outing with three interceptions in last weekend’s shocking upset at Pittsburgh, which hadn’t been able to get out of its own way in two miserable losses to start its season.