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Old 07-26-2012, 08:51 AM  
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Old 07-31-2012, 07:23 AM   #916
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Bannon's H-back role @ BYU had him lining up at FB and TE. I can see them going jumbo ace with boss/moe/bannon more than I form. Lots of zone run plays from that opens good cutback lanes and all 3 of those TE's are passing receiving threats.
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Old 07-31-2012, 07:37 AM   #917
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Bannon's H-back role @ BYU had him lining up at FB and TE. I can see them going jumbo ace with boss/moe/bannon more than I form. Lots of zone run plays from that opens good cutback lanes and all 3 of those TE's are passing receiving threats.
Yes, tell us more about how much you followed his college career.
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Old 07-31-2012, 07:44 AM   #918
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Old 07-31-2012, 07:49 AM   #919
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PFW thinks Glenn Dorsey is on the bubble? WTF? Wow, obviously they did a piss poor job, in my opinion.
Opinions on Dorsey are basically a good barometer for who's a dumbass.
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Opinions on Dorsey are basically a good barometer for who's a dumbass.
Dorsey was a mistake, along with Jackson. I am not saying Dorsey is not a good player. He just was not the guy for the position we drafted him to play. Him and TJ both are 4-3 guys. That being said I think Dorsey has improved in making the change but I still say it was wrong to draft him for a 3-4 to begin with.
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Old 07-31-2012, 08:09 AM   #921
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Dorsey was a mistake, along with Jackson. I am not saying Dorsey is not a good player. He just was not the guy for the position we drafted him to play. Him and TJ both are 4-3 guys. That being said I think Dorsey has improved in making the change but I still say it was wrong to draft him for a 3-4 to begin with.
Wasn't Dorsey drafted when we were still a 4-3 defense?
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Dorsey was a mistake, along with Jackson. I am not saying Dorsey is not a good player. He just was not the guy for the position we drafted him to play. Him and TJ both are 4-3 guys. That being said I think Dorsey has improved in making the change but I still say it was wrong to draft him for a 3-4 to begin with.
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Old 07-31-2012, 08:17 AM   #923
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Dorsey was a mistake, along with Jackson. I am not saying Dorsey is not a good player. He just was not the guy for the position we drafted him to play. Him and TJ both are 4-3 guys. That being said I think Dorsey has improved in making the change but I still say it was wrong to draft him for a 3-4 to begin with.
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it was wrong to draft him for a 3-4 to begin with.
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Wasn't Dorsey drafted when we were still a 4-3 defense?
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Both have big Y on the helmet.. big difference. Don't need to follow a player to figure out how they were used in a system. Either way I think he is a better keep than a strict FB position.
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it's the scheme ... the 2-gap 3-4 scheme generally makes Dlineman look like shit. If you want to judge a guy in our scheme then you judge them by how they protect the linebackers.

Which is why i say that drafting DE's for our scheme should be mid round picks. It's just too hard to find a Reggie White to keep dumping high draft picks on the attempt.

You want a guy with natural leverage and strength who is great at hand fighting. You can find those in the mid rounds. Save the high picks for positions with a greater chance to be game-changers.
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Dorsey was a mistake, along with Jackson. I am not saying Dorsey is not a good player. He just was not the guy for the position we drafted him to play. Him and TJ both are 4-3 guys. That being said I think Dorsey has improved in making the change but I still say it was wrong to draft him for a 3-4 to begin with.
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Ah, you are right. I was thinking Pioli was already here.
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Bannon's H-back role @ BYU had him lining up at FB and TE. I can see them going jumbo ace with boss/moe/bannon more than I form. Lots of zone run plays from that opens good cutback lanes and all 3 of those TE's are passing receiving threats.
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Both have big Y on the helmet.. big difference. Don't need to follow a player to figure out how they were used in a system. Either way I think he is a better keep than a strict FB position.
You analyzed him closely enough to educate us on what offensive system he played in and in what capacity he was used,

but because he had a Y on his helmet you overlooked what team he was on.

Makes sense to me.
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