***OFFICIAL 2012 KC Chiefs Training Camp Thread***

[Kylo Ren]

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Mark Cassell sucks!

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

Join the club, Ricky.

You're not even there.

You'll believe anything negative.

[Demonpenz]

Ford Maverick

[TRR]

Originally Posted by okcchief

Looks like I'll have to wait for Pre-Season games. These reports are all over the ****ing place.

That's really Stanzi in a nutshell. I'm from Iowa and watched every game he played including Spring games and scrimmages. I was never a big fan because of the mental mistakes he would make. I thought he had excellent weapons at Iowa that made him look better than he was. I was always nervous when he dropped back to pass. However, he got better and put together a more consistent senior season. You could talk to ten Iowa diehards about Stanzi....five would say he sucks and five would say he is the second coming. He's a roller coaster ride. Thus IMO the gaps in reports.
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[Demonpenz]

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[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Dave

You're not even there.

You'll believe anything negative.

It's pretty ****ing insane that a year after Tyler Palko was our top backup, we could enter this season with even more dogshit stinking up the QB depth chart.

It's mind bottling that Pioli would let this happen.

There will be no "game six." Cassel is starting 16 games this year. Prepare to eat shit and die if you like the Chiefs.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by tredadda

You would think people were jonesing for him to replace Aaron Rodgers or something. I would still start him over Cassel. With Stanzi we get to see what the future holds with him. With Cassel we already know that.

Until I see Stanzi with 1s, I wouldn't be fair if I bagged on him. Folks here are so ready to discard a player, it's pathetic.

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

It's pretty ****ing insane that a year after Tyler Palko was our top backup, we could enter this season with even more dogshit stinking up the QB depth chart.

It's mind bottling that Pioli would let this happen.

There will be no "game six." Cassel is starting 16 games this year. Prepare to eat shit and die if you like the Chiefs.

Did you actually ever think that Cassel would be benched in favor of Stanzi, even if Cassel DOES stink up the joint?

There's no f'ng way that will ever happen.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by TRR

That's really Stanzi in a nutshell. I'm from Iowa and watched every game he played including Spring games and scrimmages. I was never a big fan because of the mental mistakes he would make. I thought he had excellent weapons at Iowa that made him look better than he was. I was always nervous when he dropped back to pass. However, he got better and put together a more consistent senior season. You could talk to ten Iowa diehards about Stanzi....five would say he sucks and five would say he is the second coming. He's a roller coaster ride. Thus IMO the gaps in reports.
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If we find that to be fact via a fair chance, then I'll jump on the Tyler Bray bandwagon. But for now my hope is Stanzi.

[mcaj22]

if a player sucks he sucks. There is no reason not to discard a player. I'm not putting in any hype or stock into a 5th round pick like Stanzi no different than I would a 2nd rounder in McCluster. If they dont have it they dont have it. You can tell very easily in the NFL at the talent level the league has.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Undertaker

Did you actually ever think that Cassel would be benched in favor of Stanzi, even if Cassel DOES stink up the joint?

There's no f'ng way that will ever happen.

I believed there was a small chance in hell if we were on the brink of being eliminated from playoff contention.

Now?

No ****ing way. Ricky Stanzi sounds like one of the biggest pieces of shit to ever grace the Arrowhead locker room.

[-King-]

People still take gochiefs seriously?
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[aturnis]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

And keep in mind, that was to Haley's standard.

He had Albert lose weight too, and the kid hasn't been the same since.

Your disdain for the Dwayne Bowe contract situation can't be clouding your judgment this badly can it? How exactly hasn't Albert been the same? He had a down year, and has gotten better every year since. His down year can be attributed to the fact that he actually had to play LT for a QB who stayed in the pocket rather than Thiggy and the pistol. You know this, you used to cite it as a reason for Albert's down year when everyone was down on him.

You are losing all credibility lately.

Attack.

[petegz28]

Ok, to sum up what I saw anyway on whopping day 5 of camp:

QB's:

In the QB drills both Stanzi and Quinn made some poor passes.
All 3 QB's made overthrows on fades but the WR's weren't really giving an all out effort. Both Cassel and Quinn's passes I thought could have been caught with more effort

7-7 Cassel owned. Quinn had some flashes but Cassel made some great passes. I think one was overthrown and 1 or 2 were just defensed really well. I didn't watch Stanzi as he was at the other end of the field but when I did it was just hand offs.

11-11 Cassel owned again. Some very sweet passes. Some in tight coverage, some put where only a WR like Baldwin could go up and get it. Quinn didn't look too bad but his accuracy wasn't there but there reads were good, I thought. Stanzi again looked mediocre with I thought his best plays being when he used his legs.

WR's:
Baldwin is a ****ing beast. Plain and ****ing simple, Baldwin is a ****ing beast. No, he is not a beast...he is a magnetic beast. Everything near him was caught. Bowe better wake up cause I think this guy can run him out if that's what it comes down too.

Breaston had a sweet TD catch.

Dex had a couple good catches.

Copper dropped a sure TD. Had it in his hands and didn't pull it in. It was a good pass from Quinn,

TE's:

Really only wathed Boss and he is going to be an excellent addition to this team. Guy has hands and seems to be a good "tweener" that can run the more traditional TE routes.

Defense:

1-1 drills both Hali and Houston were on. They hit and the blockers couldn't shake em'. Houston looked pretty decent in pass coverage as well.

Flowers had some nice plays tonight. Broke up a couple passes including a slant which is arguably one of the hardest routes to defend.

Poe....I didn't get to see much of Poe but what little I did see looked very promising. I saw him in a 1-1 drill and he was shoving the blocker back pretty good like. Saw him in a base and nickel. In the base he seemed to get a decent push but Quinn roled out, not sure if by design or not? In nickel he took on 2 blockers and while they held him off he was not knocked off the play from what I could see.


Concerns:

QB is a major concern if Cassel goes down. Cassel looked great save he still tends to stare down receivers but his throws and reads were excellent tonight. quinn had some flashes but accuracy worried me with him. Stanzi just didn't look that impressive. A lot of his throws were just bad in drills and what I saw of him in 11-11. He got picked once and almost got picked twice.

The O-line still concerns me but this could be my being new to TC. In 11-11 if they were allowed to sack the QB it looked like Cassel would have been on his ass a couple times. Although on the TD he threw to Baldwin up top he stepped up in a nice pocket. I don't know how hard the lines really go at it with each other?

Hudson had a bad snap and though it's early that can't happen. I don't know if it was our D-line beasting or our O-line being soft but it just appeared that if sacks were allowed there would have been a few on both Cassel and Quinn with no fault on the QB. The d-line just seemed to penetrate.

It's only day 5 and you can tell guys are still getting their legs. The practice seemed to be organized, however and RAC let the coaches coach. I didn't see him getting involved with a lot other than the defense.

[DeezNutz]

Babb tweeting that CB is a concern. Huh. And nice post, pete.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

No ****ing way. Ricky Stanzi sounds like one of the biggest pieces of shit to ever grace the Arrowhead locker room.