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Old 07-26-2012, 08:51 AM  
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Mark Cassell sucks!
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Old 08-01-2012, 11:26 AM   #1456
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We had 3 points in the first 6 possessions, during the competitive phase of the game.

But it wasn't Cassel's fault. Complete blame lied with the OL.

Sure.
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Old 08-01-2012, 11:27 AM   #1457
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Made it up to camp last night. I'm no pro scout, but I have grown up in the game so I feel I can offer some half informed insight. Here are some things I saw:



1: Probably the most talked about guy in camp this year is Jon Baldwin. I was excited to see him practice in person and was immediately impressed. I hadn't realized just how big this guy is until I saw him standing with the other wideouts. He even makes some of the TE's look small. To say Baldwin has dedicated himself to becoming a top-notch WR this offseason is, to me, an understatement. The guy is pure intensity. My brother made a good observation in saying that Jon was the Tamba on the offensive side of the ball...giving 200%, 100% of the time. He literally yelled (or growled) every time he took off on his routes, and was practicing at game speed. The coaches LOVE this guy and are constantly high fiving and praising his play. To say he's going to have a monster year is probably dead on.

2: OL observations: Jeff Allen and Donald Stephenson will both start for this team eventually. Jeff Allen has solid footwork and great upper body strength. I saw him stalemate guys right and left. Stephenson, while not as ready as Allen, is going to be a good player. He's constantly taking pointers from Albert and Winston. I saw him get schooled by Tamba, who slapped his hands away and slipped around him...he then was talking with Winston about something and Winston was demonstrating technique. Stephenson then went up against Hali again and was able to apply what Winston had just taught him and win. I know some people were talking about Winston just looking like another guy out there, but to me he was all that is advertised. His kick/slide footwork in pass protection was superb and he has great feel in run blocking.

3: DL observations. Poe is going to be special. He made 2 big plays consecutively during the OL-DL run portion. The first play, Poe blew up a doubleteam and split the blockers to stop Cyrus Gray in the backfield. The other guys on the D were slapping his helmet and telling him great job. I met Poe after the practice and he was a super nice guy...calling me 'big fella' even though he's got about 150 lbs on me. Tyson Jackson looks determined to be better again this season and was working his ass off.

4: QB's. I can't believe I'm saying this, and couldn't last night either, but Cassel looks MUCH better. I don't know if it's the system, DaBoll, or what...but he seems confident and is actually accurate. In all phases of practice he threw strikes. One TD throw to Breaston was probably better than any throw I've ever seen Cassel make. It was an out route and the DB had Breaston pretty much blanketed. Cassel threw the ball to Breaston's outside shoulder, just over the pylon, the only place that the DB couldn't get to it. Steve made a great catch and got two feet in for the TD. DaBoll went just as nuts as the other offensive players did. Cassel might be in for a big year if this translates to the game field. Stanzi and Quinn both had their moments in practice, but overall I think both of them were slightly off last night. Quinn is pretty inaccurate and you hold your breath every time he throws a deep one. Stanzi has probably the best footwork and mechanics of the entire group and throws a pretty ball. He had a few off target and some that were just dropped by receivers.

5: Other observations. Berry looks like Berry. Defense is going to be legit. Tamba, DJ and Houston all look like beasts. Syler will probably see substantial playing time. Colquitt punted a ball 80 yards in the air. Colquitt also punted a ball that bounced into the stands and I caught it. None of the players cared that I wanted to keep it, but the douchebag ball boy asked me to throw it back. I did, and was booed by the crowd. Should have kept it. Ripoti Patuitary Gland or whatever his name is, #77, is a BEAST of a man. He is very quick for his size as well. I could see him being a big contributor if Romeo and Pleasant can get him coached up.

Overall I had a great time at practice, and it was great to see these guys back in action. I was excited for the season before yesterday, but now I can't wait to see this team on the game field. Easily the most talent I've ever seen on a Chiefs practice field.
thats basically alot of the same stuff I posted earlier today. Glad I'm not nuts. I think they look pretty damn sharp right now. I also agree on Pituitary boy. He is huge and doesn't get moved off the ball easily. I wonder if he could be an end when they go to the 4-3 and still play tackle in the 3-4. I know they shift in and out of them from time to time
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Old 08-01-2012, 11:27 AM   #1458
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The NY Giants had the 7th ranked O-line in the league during the regular season last year. They had the #5 passing offense in the league.
They were the worst rated pass blocking offensive line.

Their offense was basically Eli and his receivers being badasses.
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Old 08-01-2012, 11:31 AM   #1459
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How much of this "Cassel is looking awesome" bullshit is because it's practice? Cassel knows he's not going to get hit. Put him in a live game where he gets drilled that first time....and he'll revert back to shitting his pants every time he drops back.
Yep.

Cassel always looks good in camp.
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Old 08-01-2012, 11:46 AM   #1460
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Yep.

Cassel always looks good in camp.
Hell it was why Cassel got drafted. He looked good at the USC workout.
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Old 08-01-2012, 11:51 AM   #1461
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hopefully he can take some of his camp into the season ....
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If you don't think Cassel ****ed up that game against Miami, just read the game thread.

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There's the old Captain Checkdown that we all know and love.
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Genius pass on 3rd down
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Cassel is horrible throwing downfield
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geez cassel get it a little closer to him
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Baldwin was busting out but no way Cassel could get it to him...
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Also, cassel is getting enough time in the pocket, he needs to make better throws.
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Tebow-tastic...
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Thats what I hate about Cassel. He stops looking downfield when he gets pressured.
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our dumbass quarterback makes another straight up rookie mistake at almost 30

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pocket is collapsing.....cassel shitting his pants....
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Just no awareness, and shits himself when he gets pressure
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Cassel pissing on himself there.
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Throw it away dumbass
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Why did he roll out to begin with? Settle your feet and throw the ball.
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Cassel never ****ing looks downfield after evading pressure. It is by far the worst part of his game.
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See, he holds the ball too long.
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That in the grasp was all on Cassel. He's gotta recognize that.
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Blitz, because he's incapable of exploiting it.
And that is JUST THE FIRST HALF.
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Old 08-01-2012, 12:05 PM   #1463
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Boom goes the dynamite.

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Boom goes the dynamite.
I'll admit hot reads were an issue the last 3 years. I don't know if that's on the QB or Haley. At this point it's safe to sepculate both since after a time we saw teams were going to stack and blitz Cassel so where was the coaching for the hot reads? Definitely something that has to improve.
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****ing LOL if Brady Quinn is our #2.

I will root hard for Cassel to get hurt in such an event, because Quinn will completely expose Pioli as a buffoon.
Brady Quinn is the perfect fit for this team if he starts. He either ****ing proves he belongs and solves our QB problem or he fails and it forces us to draft a 1st round QB. He is at the age where there are no ****ing excuses for him. If he plays he will be the man or fail.
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Old 08-01-2012, 12:14 PM   #1467
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Yep.

Cassel always looks good in camp.
Sorry Milk, this isn't true, he has had some real shit training camps. Not that it means much for the season but I haven't heard Cassel talked up like this ever.

Lots of time left for him to shit down his leg.
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Sorry Milk, this isn't true, he has had some real shit training camps. Not that it means much for the season but I haven't heard Cassel talked up like this ever.

Lots of time left for him to shit down his leg.
This. I haven't heard Cassel talked up this much in a TC before either. I remember his TC's reports always being littered with INT's and erratic passing. These are some of the most glowing reports i've ever heard about our offense since Vermiel's days.

Not holding my breath however. I wanna see the games.
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Brady Quinn is the perfect fit for this team if he starts. He either ****ing proves he blongs and solves our QB problem or he fails and it forces us to draft a 1st round QB. He is at the age where there are no ****ing excuses for him. If he plays he will be the man or fail.
Blogging while typing with tongs?

How will that skill help this team with our QB problem? You make no cents.
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the day Cassel has any clue how to make a correct hot read on the field when it counts is the day i sit in my chair watching the game and poop my pants in shock.
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