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Good to hear Boss was productive today...be sweet to have him and Moeaki flooding a cover 3 or splitting a cover 2. 31 Jul Paul Jackiewicz @ProFootballZone @TheFilmRoom Boss is a great TE, the only problem is his durability, he takes a lot of head shots cuz he's 6'6", but he catches everything Cordell @TheFilmRoom @ProFootballZone our passing game has been reduced to one side of the field for a few years now. Cordell @TheFilmRoom #Chiefs have weapons, but it doesn't matter if Cassel can't process the reads. It's like having a Ferrari on a 35mph street, what the point? Cordell @TheFilmRoom #Chiefs based on my observations I stand against most of the media in regards to Stanzi and Cassel for one simple reason. Cordell @TheFilmRoom #Chiefs Cassel is limited and is more efficient at this point b/c the degree of difficulty on his throws is much lower than Stanzi's. Cordell @TheFilmRoom #Chiefs he looks "better" at camp but we seen this chapter. Teams can take away his primary and then we are stuck in the same boat. Joe Dice @realjoedice @TheFilmRoom i here u but based on all news frm camp lastnite and all offseasn look like we got Pats Matt Cassel if so will be jus fine 1 Aug Cordell @TheFilmRoom @realjoedice he's the same Matt Cassel. Joe Dice @realjoedice @TheFilmRoom will see too early mk any assmnts lets wait till season starts and he has few games undr his belt he did in New Englnd from Jackson, MS 1 Aug Cordell @TheFilmRoom @realjoedice you can, I seen him for 4 years and been to camp...I think I am able to form an opinion on him at this point. Joe Dice @realjoedice @TheFilmRoom hey ppl said same thng abt Eli he has 2 super bowls but hey wht do i knw 1 Aug Cordell @TheFilmRoom @realjoedice I'm not discrediting your faith in the guy...there are many redeemable qualities about his game. Joe Dice @realjoedice @TheFilmRoom hey ppl said same thng abt Eli he has 2 super bowls but hey wht do i knw 1 Aug Cordell @TheFilmRoom @realjoedice I'm just stating my opinion...never does that mean that your opinion isn't valid or right...it's just not mine. Joe Dice @realjoedice @TheFilmRoom The Patriots Matt Cassel won games wit his arm the 2010 cassel relied too much on run game despite his statistics that yr from Brandon, MS Cordell @TheFilmRoom @realjoedice we are going to have to agree to disagree...it's been two days and we aren't really coming together on this. Joe Dice @realjoedice @TheFilmRoom lol i hear ya well hopefully im right becuz if so mean chiefs goin be plyng late into january from Brandon, MS Cordell @TheFilmRoom @realjoedice I hope you are right...I'm just not there with you in regards to Cassel...but my hope is with Cassel doing well. Cordell: There are no Madden Ratings in real life...no better or worse...there are simply skill sets...making it a matter of preference. Matt Stagner @stagdsp @stagdsp @TheFilmRoom You can win 10+ games w/Cassel without much risk, as long as the playcalling and OL help, and skill players make plays 1 Aug Cordell @TheFilmRoom @stagdsp exactly, both have their flaws but both have positive attributes. Never as black and white as it is made out to be. His Dirkness @HisDirknesS @TheFilmRoom No Cordell, players are either good or bad. There's not even an average. That's just the way it is. 1 Aug Cordell @TheFilmRoom @HisDirknesS sadly that is how many look at this. ChileanChief@TheFilmRoom why is a different difficulty in throws? 1 Aug Cordell @TheFilmRoom @ChileanChief Stanzi process the entire field...doesn't limit himself to just one area...ESPN has a great reference for that information. Cordell @TheFilmRoom @ChileanChief Cassel waits for the intermediate route to clear, most throws are limited to half the field and short. His Dirkness @HisDirknesS @TheFilmRoom you think that's a Twitter thing? created by ESPN talking heads? or a generational movement? It's irksome. 1 Aug Cordell @TheFilmRoom @HisDirknesS look at who controls the information...do any of them actually break down the game...or just talk in broad generalizations? Chilean Chiefs Fan @ChileanChief @TheFilmRoom Understood, but in game situations, you could have a risky plan or a conservative plan, it depends on coaches to decide. 1 Aug Cordell @TheFilmRoom @ChileanChief agree, earlier said both have redeemable qualities...not a matter of who's best because they are different, it's preference. Cordell @TheFilmRoom Romeo may go with Cassel...with a strong running game and emerging defense...I can buy Cassel being the best fit...best ball control QB. Stephen Haynes @OManSteveO @TheFilmRoom #Chiefs I agree Cassel was making more short/crossing/slant throws, outside the numbers he was off 1 Aug Cordell @TheFilmRoom @OManSteveO agree, he's a limited passer. Stephen Haynes @OManSteveO @TheFilmRoom #Chiefs Do you think Pioli already sees Stanzi as his QB of the future? Assuming he wins the #2 spot. 1 Aug Cordell @TheFilmRoom @OManSteveO based on the current situation I don't see how he couldn't...IMO. Eric C. Stoner @ECStoner The thing that makes Gabbert difficult to project is that we don't know the answer to whether his issues are coachable or not. 1 Aug Cordell @TheFilmRoom @ECStoner was breaking down Brady Quinn and I am surprised a coach hasn't pulled him to the side and changed his very low release point. Eric C. Stoner @ECStoner In that sense, Gabbert is the most fascinating young QB prospect in a long time. What is coachable and what is not in young QBs? 1 Aug Cordell @TheFilmRoom @ECStoner to be honest, and I respect coaching...but sometimes even pro coaches can't pinpoint flaws...some QB's rarely get corrected. Cordell @TheFilmRoom @ECStoner Matt Cassel still throws a football like a baseball player...takes long strides into throws like an outfielder. Cordell @TheFilmRoom @ECStoner yeah, Quinn's release and range of motion on arm is short...overcompensates for force by over rotation with the feet. Inaccurate. Cordell @TheFilmRoom @ECStoner Brady Quinn does that but at a much larger degree...pretty much does a 180 rotation on his lead foot. Sam Mitchell @samhmitch17 @TheFilmRoom should have been there last night. Missed everything. Overthrew TE twice on seem route cassel hit routinely 1 Aug Cordell @TheFilmRoom @samhmitch17 watched him one day, all I needed...hard to have success with his mechanics...too many variables to account for. FredMoney @AbstractLife @TheFilmRoom Jaycee sound like he's living in a fantasy land to me. He always seems to think it's someone or something better out there. 1 Aug Cordell @TheFilmRoom @AbstractLife man, I thought they were bringing up solid points...have different takes and perspectives than most I listen to. Rico Swaff @ricoswaff @TheFilmRoom I'm glad I've seen someone else comment on how Cassel tends to throw like a baseball. I've been blasted for that observation. 1 Aug Cordell @TheFilmRoom @ricoswaff people have blinders on...football is covered by people with journalism degrees, not football people. Skip Bayless @RealSkipBayless How in the name of Montana did a Tebow who "can't throw" complete so many big passes and pull off six 4th-q and overtime comebacks last yr? Cordell @TheFilmRoom @RealSkipBayless I can throw, you can throw, Tebow can throw...doubtful any of us are passers...but we can certainly "throw" Who? @WavyCrockett100 @TheFilmRoom I'm referring to your comment about running a few plays that work well. They'll have to be runs and short passes check cassels Cordell @TheFilmRoom @WavyCrockett100 he'll have around 2 vertical options per pass play, wether he uses it or not is up to him. Cordell @TheFilmRoom I ask about the types of routes Cassel throws and against what coverage. He's already good in one area of the field and against 2 coverages. Cordell @TheFilmRoom The two days I watched him he was throwing the same routes he always throws to the same area. Concern for me, we need other options. Brent Scholz @brentbeats @TheFilmRoom You were high on Stanzi early on, but everyone been ripping him since. Did you see different things, or has he fallen off? Cordell @TheFilmRoom @brentbeats I hear people knocking Stanzi, but few break down the game or the position. I'd consider the source, myself included. Brent Scholz @brentbeats @TheFilmRoom Gotcha. Was just curious if you felt your opinion differed, or if he started strong but has declined since. Cordell @TheFilmRoom @brentbeats my take is based on mechanics (Stanzi superior) and his reads (more aggressive)...from a technical standpoint he's the best. Brent Scholz @brentbeats @TheFilmRoom Agree. It's not exactly analysts or scouts who are knocking him... Cordell @TheFilmRoom @brentbeats yeah, there's journalism people who cover news...then there's football people, not a lot of football people in KC media. |
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