Chiefs ***OFFICIAL 2012 KC Chiefs Training Camp Thread*** - Page 141

Kylo Ren · 08:51 AM

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Mark Cassell sucks!

beach tribe · 08-04-2012, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Clay's not everything Chiefs sucks. He just doesn't assume or project that guys who haven't done much previously, but are really talented, will have good years, until he sees them do it.

We tend to go full homer on here at times. He isn't taking that route right now. He's being a realist. Judging things based on what guys have done or not done previously

Whatever. He thinks this regime is garbage.
McCluster is a SMALL part of hate campaign.
You should know. You're the one with the 10 game bet with him.

O.city · 08-04-2012, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

Whatever. He thinks this regime is garbage.
McCluster is a SMALL part of hate campaign.
You should know. You're the one with the 10 game bet with him.

Oh I think we have a talented roster and I think we will have a good year. But I'm not quite as confident as some on here.

That bet was just calling Clay on some trolling.

beach tribe · 08-04-2012, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

In '10 he threw for less than 3200 yards on the season, averaging something like 207 YPG.

Bowe = 1000 yards
Breaston = 700 yards
Charles = 450 yards

Don't see Baldwin getting 1000 with needing to split up yards with Hillis, Wylie, Brokaki, Boss, and Cassel (when he catches shit deflected by the line).

I think he goes for about 800 if you ask me, with a legitimate CHANCE that he goes for 1000.

O.city · 08-04-2012, 02:06 PM

I bet Cassel averages 250 plus this year.

**mdchiefsfan** · 08-04-2012, 02:07 PM

Nick Jacobs

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DJ blocks up the run in the backfield.

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Tyson great job of maintaining the LOS and getting off Winston block to make tackle.

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Cyrus Gray big run up the middle.

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David Mims good job keeping Allen Bailey from pursuing down the line

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Quinn with the overthrow on the go route

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Dexter Heyman great job shuffling down the line and acceling towards the ball carrier for tackle behind LOS.

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Nice wall by the kick return. Javier Arenas great acceleration to the house.

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Another great wall by special teams. Dexter to the house.

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Cyrus Gray fumbles the return in the end zone.

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Dontari Poe playing some of kick return.

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Javier Arenas up the middle to the house.

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The thing to keep in mind, kickoff just working on getting to their spots not fighting through blocks. Return working on building walls.

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Asomoah shuts down Poe twice in individuals.

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Hudson good lockout on Jerrell Powe.

RustShack · 08-04-2012, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Clay's not everything Chiefs sucks. He just doesn't assume or project that guys who haven't done much previously, but are really talented, will have good years, until he sees them do it.

We tend to go full homer on here at times. He isn't taking that route right now. He's being a realist. Judging things based on what guys have done or not done previously

He doesn't understand players can improve. What they are their rookie year is what they are ten or so years down the line when they retire.

Rasputin · 08-04-2012, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

Wanna double down on your sig? He scores a TD this year you can take it down. If he doesn't score a TD, you keep it forever.

Are you talking to me? Ha ha that's funny I can take it down when ever I want. We never made it clear just how long the sig last.

Hammock Parties · 08-04-2012, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

I'm totally buying into this roster elevating Cassel and carrying his ass to tolerable/damn near respectable.
I think he throws for about 3800 yards.
Flame away. Bring it on. I'M A BELIEVER

We are not going to attempt that many passes.

They know Cassel's limitations and will protect him, not put him in harm's way.

We'll be top 3 in rushing attempts again, bottom 1/3 in third down conversions, and no more than 3200 yards passing.

**DeezNutz** · 08-04-2012, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

I think he goes for about 800 if you ask me, with a legitimate CHANCE that he goes for 1000.

Certainly a chance, especially if Cassel develops a Thigen-to-Gonzo-like lock on him during camp.

I have no doubt that Baldwin is a talented player, and I was thrilled with his selection last year. I have high expectations for him.

O.city · 08-04-2012, 02:09 PM

Judging from my day at TC yesterday, we will throw it more than we have the past few years.

Hammock Parties · 08-04-2012, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Are you talking to me? Ha ha that's funny I can take it down when ever I want. We never made it clear just how long the sig last.

You said it was for a month.

So if he scores a TD in preseason, you can take it down.

If he doesn't score at all this year, you keep it forever.

Are you game? Surely Dex can get 1 TD in 20 games.

CoMoChief · 08-04-2012, 02:09 PM

I've somewhat touched on this already...but I will say this again about DMC.

He's not as bad as some people on this board think. However 1st day picks are supposed to be major contributors to your team. 2nd day picks are generally for depth, projects, or taking risks on some players that should have gone earlier, but didn't for whatever reason and happen to fall into the later rounds.

DMC was taken with the 36th overall pick (2nd rd), in what has been considered a reach by most people. Where exactly was DMC going to play? He's 5'8 170lbs soaking wet and on an offense where we already have Thomas Jones and Jamaal Charles, there was simply no place for him in most packages. However he was considered to be a fast/shifty football player in college that could makes things happen if he got into the open field. So another words the Chiefs coaches drafted a gadget player in the 2nd rd. This isn't DMC's fault, it more lands on the shoulders of Haley/Pioli.

Will he be cut? No. I don't think there's any chance at all he's cut from this team. He signed a 4-yr deal, which will be up after the 2013 season. If he's not able to contribute and settle into his new WR role, then I don't think he will be resigned, esp w/ the recent drafting of Wylie. He's not a bad football player. He's small which makes him easier to bring down, but he's quick enough to make people miss - just not exceptionally quick like a Dante Hall. I think it's more a blunder on the coaching staff that drafted him and then realized there wasn't a place for him more than anything, and that's not necessarily the fault of DMC's more than it is the coaching staff who drafted him.

Rasputin · 08-04-2012, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

You said it was for a month.

So if he scores a TD in preseason, you can take it down.

If he doesn't score at all this year, you keep it forever.

Are you game? Surely Dex can get 1 TD in 20 games.

Show me the post. You maybe right I just want to see it if that's the case.

**DeezNutz** · 08-04-2012, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I bet Cassel averages 250 plus this year.

If he's throwing the ball that much, we're probably in real trouble.

We're going to see a Martified offensive attack, especially if Hillis lives up to expectations.

Hammock Parties · 08-04-2012, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

He doesn't understand players can improve. What they are their rookie year is what they are ten or so years down the line when they retire.

Sure I do. I have been very patient with guys like Justin Houston, Eric Berry, Javier Arenas, etc.

When someone is a piece of dogshit their rookie year, though, I tend to have negative feelings.

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CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $7672254	I've somewhat touched on this already...but I will say this again about DMC. He's not as bad as some people on this board think. However 1st day picks are supposed to be major contributors to your team. 2nd day picks are generally for depth, projects, or taking risks on some players that should have gone earlier, but didn't for whatever reason and happen to fall into the later rounds. DMC was taken with the 36th overall pick (2nd rd), in what has been considered a reach by most people. Where exactly was DMC going to play? He's 5'8 170lbs soaking wet and on an offense where we already have Thomas Jones and Jamaal Charles, there was simply no place for him in most packages. However he was considered to be a fast/shifty football player in college that could makes things happen if he got into the open field. So another words the Chiefs coaches drafted a gadget player in the 2nd rd. This isn't DMC's fault, it more lands on the shoulders of Haley/Pioli. Will he be cut? No. I don't think there's any chance at all he's cut from this team. He signed a 4-yr deal, which will be up after the 2013 season. If he's not able to contribute and settle into his new WR role, then I don't think he will be resigned, esp w/ the recent drafting of Wylie. He's not a bad football player. He's small which makes him easier to bring down, but he's quick enough to make people miss - just not exceptionally quick like a Dante Hall. I think it's more a blunder on the coaching staff that drafted him and then realized there wasn't a place for him more than anything, and that's not necessarily the fault of DMC's more than it is the coaching staff who drafted him. __________________
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