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Old 01-27-2011, 08:15 PM  
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The last month or so, one of my company's competitors has been trying to recruit me away from my current employer. I'm reasonably happy where I am and will hit 5 years of service on March 1st (which means that I will be fully vested).

The new company kept calling, so I decided that I would meet with them and listen to their pitch. After meeting with HR and the office manager, it's pretty clear that they are going to make me an offer. I told the office manager that it was going to cost them more than they were planning on spending in order to get me to switch. He said that he would pressure them to give me what I wanted, but we didn't get to hard numbers yet.

I'm planning on asking for a 20-30% increase over what I currently make. I think they might agree to 20%. Whatever they offer, I am going to take it to my current employer and ask them to match it when my 5 year review comes up next month. If it's 20%+, I doubt they will match it, but they will probably meet me somewhere in between.

My question is this: How much money should I be willing to leave on the table in order to stay where I am? It's basically a lateral move, and there's always the risk/hassle factor associated with switching companies. Assuming that everything is a push in terms of pros and cons between the two compaines, how much is it worth to stay where I'm comfortable?
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Old 08-04-2012, 12:48 PM   #76
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A lot of people do own side businesses.
Generally not with secretaries
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Old 08-04-2012, 12:51 PM   #77
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A lot of people do own side businesses. A friend of mine works in sales by day, and sells merchandise by mail-order in his spare time for a bit of extra cash. I don't know the details of your prior debate or this person, but it's not out of the question is it?
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Old 08-04-2012, 12:51 PM   #78
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Generally not with secretaries
Or their NAME ON THE DOOR.
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Old 08-04-2012, 12:52 PM   #79
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Or their NAME ON THE DOOR.
I think I saw that one time on a 70's sit com
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Old 08-04-2012, 12:53 PM   #80
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Hmm, I'm a bit confused here.

Saul was a just an employee of somebody else in this thread, seeking the advice of CP members on his next career move. This was in early 2011. And apparently he took the job, and is happy with it. Good for him. I guess the job market's tough in Kansas these days.

So, when, exactly did you own your own company? With your name on the door? October of the same year, apparently.



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So tell me, Saul, how'd you go from employee who seeks career advice on a football board to CHECK SIGNING OWNER OF YOUR OWN COMPANY WITH YOUR NAME ON THE DOOR to employee again?

Did you spray paint your name on the door and hope nobody would notice? Perhaps you took a job working for somebody who shares a common last name, so your name does appear on the checks?

Or maybe you're just a lying piece of shit.
I've been pretty clear about what I did. I've always worked for someone else. I also started up a side business with one employee. I got it to the point where I was going to have to start putting in a bunch of time to grow it, keep doing no work and making a consistent (but not enough to live on) income while literally doing nothing but keeping my licenses current, or sell it.

I was doing the second of the three until my employee decided that he wanted to buy it and try to really grow it, so I agreed to sell it to him. Evidently he made a good move because he has more than doubled his income in seven months. Last I saw, he was on a track to pull in about $140k this year. My profit was barely a quarter of that last year, and there is no way I would have been able to get it to that level myself without putting full time hours into it and/or hiring another employee. He was already putting in full time hours, and he hired an employee, and it's paid off for him in spades.

By the time I sold it, he didn't need me. I wasn't doing anything but cashing checks. I would have been better off not selling, but he would have probably wound up leaving and starting up his own operation eventually, anyway. I wouldn't have been in position to keep it alive at that point, so I agreed to sell.
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Old 08-04-2012, 12:59 PM   #81
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Old 08-04-2012, 01:00 PM   #82
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So I guess the people she was answering phones for were just figments of your imagination, right?

It sure sounded cool on the net, though, brah.
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Old 08-04-2012, 01:06 PM   #83
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In this economy, do you want to give up a secure, reasonably long term job that you're happy with to become the newest employee for a competitor? That's a serious consideration in this economy. And if you get greased by the new place, good chance you'll have burned your bridges with the old one.

A few years ago, I'd say jump and not think twice. But this ain't a few years ago.
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Hmm, I'm a bit confused here.

Saul was a just an employee of somebody else in this thread, seeking the advice of CP members on his next career move. This was in early 2011. And apparently he took the job, and is happy with it. Good for him. I guess the job market's tough in Kansas these days.

So, when, exactly did you own your own company? With your name on the door? October of the same year, apparently.



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So tell me, Saul, how'd you go from employee who seeks career advice on a football board to CHECK SIGNING OWNER OF YOUR OWN COMPANY WITH YOUR NAME ON THE DOOR to employee again?

Did you spray paint your name on the door and hope nobody would notice? Perhaps you took a job working for somebody who shares a common last name, so your name does appear on the checks?

Or maybe you're just a lying piece of shit.
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Old 08-05-2012, 12:43 AM   #88
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are you dealing with a recruiter or people from the company? Recruiters just wanna get that commish, ya know.
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