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Old 08-23-2012, 09:58 AM  
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11 QB's under the gun in '12
According to Fox Sports. No story, just a link to a slide show with a paragraph about each.

Yes Castle is one of them.

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Old 08-23-2012, 03:43 PM   #91
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nah, he's not under the gun. He's just....done.
I wouldn't say he is done. I just don't think his leash is as slack as Favre's was when he was exiting the game.
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Old 08-23-2012, 03:45 PM   #92
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No. There is nothing worth seeing...


I dont want to see him play in KC, ever. Same with Stanzi. Dude can take his drain clogging hair and head to the CFL or Arena League.
Jfc. Stanzi has only one offseason and one season under his belt. I don't know if he's god or if he's garbage. I do know that it's unreasonable to expect every qb to be guns blazing from the get go.

as I've said before, I really hope cassel doesn't start the entire season. I know with pretty good certainty he's not the answer. There's still at least a small percent of hope for stanzi. We should draft a qb next year no matter what. But every minute we waste on cassel is a minute we could have spent at least trying different options.
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Old 08-23-2012, 03:46 PM   #93
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as I've said before, I really hope cassel doesn't start the entire season.
Why? So we can watch Quinn and Stanzi? Dumb.
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Old 08-23-2012, 03:52 PM   #94
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Why? So we can watch Quinn and Stanzi? Dumb.
Checkdowns don't win playoff games. If Cassel decides he wants to grow out of his diapers and play QB with the big boys, that's fine, but he better show me he has the balls to do it.

Until then, yes. Quinn and Stanzi BOTH have more courage than Matt does.
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Checkdowns don't win playoff games. If Cassel decides he wants to grow out of his diapers and play QB with the big boys, that's fine, but he better show me he has the balls to do it.

Until then, yes. Quinn and Stanzi BOTH have more courage than Matt does.
Quinn and Stanzi don't either. Cassel is the best QB on the roster and it's not even debatable.
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Why? So we can watch Quinn and Stanzi? Dumb.
If I'm playing the lottery and you gave me two options:
Option 1: 75% chance of payout on $10. 0% chance of payout of a million dollars.
Option 2: 20% chance of payout on $10. 10% chance of payout of a million dollars.

I'm taking option B every single time. I could give a shit if Cassel is going to win us 8 games, but we lose those games more respectfully. We know with good certainty what his ceiling is and it's not the Super Bowl. We don't know what Stanzi's ceiling is. And we'll never know until we give him meaningful snaps.

This isn't to promote Stanzi. This is to say we shouldn't waste a single minute with a QB who does nothing for your future.
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Quinn and Stanzi don't either. Cassel is the best QB on the roster and it's not even debatable.
This.
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If I'm playing the lottery and you gave me two options:
Option 1: 75% chance of payout on $10. 0% chance of payout of a million dollars.
Option 2: 20% chance of payout on $10. 10% chance of payout of a million dollars.

I'm taking option B every single time. I could give a shit if Cassel is going to win us 8 games, but we lose those games more respectfully. We know with good certainty what his ceiling is and it's not the Super Bowl. We don't know what Stanzi's ceiling is. And we'll never know until we give him meaningful snaps.

This isn't to promote Stanzi. This is to say we shouldn't waste a single minute with a QB who does nothing for your future.
Cassel is option B. Quinn and Stanzi aren't giving this team a better chance at a million dollars because Cassel is better. Sorry.
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Quinn and Stanzi don't either. Cassel is the best QB on the roster and it's not even debatable.
The problem is that you care more about who is better today vs. who has the higher ceiling. If we followed your logic, there is absolutely no reason for Tannehill to start over Matt Moore.
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If I'm playing the lottery and you gave me two options:
Option 1: 75% chance of payout on $10. 0% chance of payout of a million dollars.
Option 2: 20% chance of payout on $10. 10% chance of payout of a million dollars.

I'm taking option B every single time. I could give a shit if Cassel is going to win us 8 games, but we lose those games more respectfully. We know with good certainty what his ceiling is and it's not the Super Bowl. We don't know what Stanzi's ceiling is. And we'll never know until we give him meaningful snaps.

This isn't to promote Stanzi. This is to say we shouldn't waste a single minute with a QB who does nothing for your future.
Neither Quinn nor Stanzi do anything for our future, either. It pains me to say it, but with this team, these coaches, and the situation what it is, Stanzi probably won't ever develop. It is what it is.

Even Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl. Saying Cassel has zero chance of making it to one just isn't statistically accurate.
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I might stop reading threads about QB's until Cassel is gone. It's the same shit over and over.

Cassel sucks, and has ruined a pretty good team.
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The problem is that you care more about who is better today vs. who has the higher ceiling. If we followed your logic, there is absolutely no reason for Tannehill to start over Matt Moore.
You're damn right I care more about who is better today. Stanzi isn't ready. Why should I care what he might be in 5 ****ing years? I don't.
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Quinn and Stanzi don't either. Cassel is the best QB on the roster and it's not even debatable.
Never has been.
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Cassel is option B. Quinn and Stanzi aren't giving this team a better chance at a million dollars because Cassel is better. Sorry.
Cassel is not taking us to the Super Bowl. We know that with some degree of certainty because there is a mountain of playing time and evidence that indicates that he has flaws that he still not yet corrected.

Stanzi has a lot of unknown about him. Because he has the unknown, we don't know what his ceiling is. And it's pretty damn ridiculous that people have decided his ceiling before he has taken any meaningful starting snaps with this team.

You have a guy with no shot at a Super Bowl (Cassel) vs. a guy who has a longshot chance at one (Stanzi). This isn't a hard argument.

But by all means, enjoy celebrating another 9-7 season.
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Stanzi has a lot known about him. We know he's not ready. Keep on pimpin that #3 spot.
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