Chiefs How are we supposed to draft a QB next year? - Page 7

RunKC · 08-23-2012, 08:31 PM

This team is winning 7 games despite Cassel. There's just too much talent.

So...just curious on how are we supposed to get this said "first round QB" when we'll probably draft in the middle teens (early twenties if everything goes perfectly).

Pioli would be stupid to trade Bowe.

You think he has the Pioli's to trade future high draft picks?

I say no. He'll probably draft DB and piss us all off again.

Marcellus · 08-24-2012, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Sanchez played pretty ****ing good in the playoffs and we have as much or more talent as those Jets teams did.

I dont think he is really good or anything silly...but I do think his ceiling is much higher than Cassels.

And bringing up Tebow as some replacement for Sanchez is silly.

Tebow was brought in for short yardage situations and it was a brilliant move to do so.

He is enough of a threat running with the ball to keep defenses honest and allow him to either throw to single coverage or get the ball in by keeping it on the ground.

I dont think he was brought in to take the job from Sanzhez...I think he was brought in to compliment and take away time the opposing team has to prepare for either guy.

The element of surprise Tebow should add in NY should help them win football games.

Sanchez is such a good QB, they needed another QB to make the offense better?

Are we discussing the need for a franchise QB or not? Is Sanchez a franchise QB? No he is not.

htismaqe · 08-24-2012, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Steele Jantz. Has the size, talent, arm, big play ability, and is a hero in the 4th quarter when the pressure is really on. He will have a great year this year, book it.

. He'll be on the bench after they get stomped in the Big 12 opener...

RUSH · 08-24-2012, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Assud

Tannehill (supposing he's successful) will only be successful because he's already familiar with the playbook. Any other year he probably would have been a third round pick.

That's an idiotic statement.

So basically if he's good then it has nothing to do with him? Seriously?

He can know the playbook inside out, but he still has to go out there on Sunday's and execute it. If he does that then it's because he can play, not because "he knows the playbook."

I bet you Tyler Palko knew the playbook front and back last year. Why wasn't he successful?

Chiefnj2 · 08-24-2012, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Is Sanchez a franchise QB? No he is not.

He is a franchise QB if your plan for the franchise is to rely on the running game and defense, which is what the Jets did in his first two years with them. Is he elite? No, not close.

Chiefnj2 · 08-24-2012, 06:55 AM

GBNREPORT.COM
ranks returning QBs as
1. Barkley*
2. Wilson*
3. Thomas
4. Bray
5. Jones*
6. Manuel*
7. Mettenberger
8. Murray
9. Smith*
10. Glennon*

*=Sr

RUSH · 08-24-2012, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

GBNREPORT.COM
ranks returning QBs as
1. Barkley*
2. Wilson*
3. Thomas
4. Bray
5. Jones*
6. Manuel*
7. Mettenberger
8. Murray
9. Smith*
10. Glennon*

*=Sr

I've read Barkley and Wilson are both going to measure under 6'2. Wouldn't be surprised to see them slip a lil bit by April with the way the NFL is.

If he has a big year then I think Thomas will be the number 1 pick. Unless Bray tears up the sec and comes out then he's the man to beat. He just lost Rogers though and Hunter is coming off an injury.

I personally love Wilson. Fearless in the pocket, good decision maker and can really sling it. Big time competitor too but just a bit short, that's the flaw. If he can overcome all of the adversity he is facing this year (Petrino, losing 3 NFL wrs) then that will just impress me even more.

**Saul Good** · 08-24-2012, 08:03 AM

6'2 is plenty tall for an NFL QB.

DJ's left nut · 08-24-2012, 08:54 AM

I'm on the Geno Smith bandwagon all the way.

I loved what he was able to do after switching to a more 'conventional' offense last year. He's a lot like Tannehill in a lot of ways, though in my mind a slightly more talented version of him almost across the board.

That said, I see Smith as being a guy that goes in the top 10 pretty easily and could potentially go top 5 if teams look to trade up. I think he'll be great this year.

EDIT:

I see that SNR and I have been in agreement on this one before....

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...highlight=Geno

mr. tegu · 08-24-2012, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Barkley will be a bust.

This class has potential, but then again, so did 2012's. Foles was supposed to challenge for the top spot along with Barkley. Jones was predicted to declare as well. The NFL is quite lucky that RGIII came along, realistically.

Here again, you have Barkley and Wilson as close-to-certain first rounders. Beyond them, however, things dry up quickly. Jones is a piece of shit, but he might have to do if no other QB steps forward. Bray and Murray are both juniors, and will likely want to pad their resumes in an attempt to be #1 overall. I actually seriously doubt they declare. That seems to be the trend lately for non-senior QBs.

Then you're depending on breakout seasons from a variety of guys. Logan Thomas (whom I've never been high on) EJ Manuel, and a few others. Geno Smith is a guy I've touted as the best QB in this draft. I am a huge fan of his, and would love to see the Chiefs draft him. He does need to bring it this year, though, to prove that he can play through instability and increased competition in his new conference.

In the end, very likely you might see only two QBs come out of what could have been one of the greatest QB classes we've seen in a long time. I think the order will eventually go something like this:

1. Barkley (blech)
2. Smith
3. Wilson
4. Jones
5. Thomas
6. Manuel
7. Umm.... dunno... Dayne Crist? Lol.

The top 6 have potential to be first rounders. If some of them don't make it, there's also the small chance that we see an early entrant like Bray or Murray as well. In the end, 2013 looks promising, but it's still completely ****ing up in the air.

I agree pretty much with everything you posted, except I really like Barkley. Being at USC he plays on many nationally televised games and he just looks like a pro. And the same goes for Jones in that here in Big 12 country we see him a lot and he just does not look to have it.

If there was ever a time to trade up and get someone to eventually be your QB next year would be it since many teams that project to be there will already have a QB. Also, Cassel is serviceable enough and looks even better so far this preseason, that any new QB would have plenty of time to learn and adjust to the NFL.

Chiefshrink · 08-24-2012, 09:07 AM

Wow ! Just WOW !

You have definitely stopped using your meds and you may want to see someone because you are one depressed miserable little cowardly wannabe whose Napoleon complex has gone nuclear for sure.

Get some help Milk, so that you can start delivering fresh milk instead of sour milk

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Originally Posted by milkman

You have been a ****ing idiot since your first post, and I know that is not only my opinion, but a majority opinion around this place.

Look in the mirror ! Truth hurts! Majority opinion about you ?

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Originally Posted by milkman

I'm fairly certain that his sig violates the planet's rules, and until now I haven't said anything about it, because, even though I am an asshole, and I can't stand that useless ****, I rarely say anything about things like that.

But **** it.

I am sick of looking at his useless ****ing sig, and if he doesn't fix it, I will report it.

**** him.

Violates CP rules ? Seriously ? Then why did the software programmers allow that much room? Use your BB size brain !! Whose the 'Real DUMBASS NOW !!!

But you go ahead and

to the teacher like you did when you were a kid. Trying to bully me with Sig threats.

YOU PUSSY !

Like I said, I will gladly accommodate. But to cowardly bulletin board bullying assholes like yourself ? An apology from you for your nasty asshole attitude and I will gladly play team ball. But I don't think it will happen because you don't have the maturity to do it. Your Napoleonic Narcissism won't allow you to apologize or even ever admit that you are wrong, soooooooo.........

Enjoy my sigs !

**the Talking Can** · 08-24-2012, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Assud

Hah, Flacco is serviceable at best. In the golden era of the QB passing attack he's pretty damn average. I'm not sure why he's rank so high on all the QB rankings.. His job is basically to hand off the ball to Rice as he tears through the all pro offensive line. Give our young line a year or two to develop and you could be seeing the same thing in KC, no matter who the QB is at that point.

i will never not love chiefs fans talking about QBs

milkman · 08-24-2012, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

Wow ! Just WOW !

You have definitely stopped using your meds and you may want to see someone because you are one depressed miserable little cowardly wannabe whose Napoleon complex has gone nuclear for sure.

Get some help Milk, so that you can start delivering fresh milk instead of sour milk

Look in the mirror ! Truth hurts! Majority opinion about you ?

Violates CP rules ? Seriously ? Then why did the software programmers allow that much room? Use your BB size brain !! Whose the 'Real DUMBASS NOW !!!

But you go ahead and

to the teacher like you did when you were a kid. Trying to bully me with Sig threats.

YOU PUSSY !

Like I said, I will gladly accommodate. But to cowardly bulletin board bullying assholes like yourself ? An apology from you for your nasty asshole attitude and I will gladly play team ball. But I don't think it will happen because you don't have the maturity to do it. Your Napoleonic Narcissism won't allow you to apologize or even ever admit that you are wrong, soooooooo.........

Enjoy my sigs !

I'm sorry you're a dumbshit.

And my brain tells me that there have been numerous violations of the sig policy around here, and I can't tell you why the space is available.

But, if I actually did intend to report your uselss dumb ass, I would have already done it, you usless prick.

I have seen enough posts about your dipshiterry to know that people think you are a dipshit.

RustShack · 08-24-2012, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

. He'll be on the bench after they get stomped in the Big 12 opener...

Now that he's healthy, knows the receivers and playbook, and has experience he will be a lot more consistent and make less mistakes. Think Iowa game.

Bewbies · 08-24-2012, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

i will never not love chiefs fans talking about QBs

This is always what comes to mind...

Marcellus · 08-24-2012, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

He is a franchise QB if your plan for the franchise is to rely on the running game and defense, which is what the Jets did in his first two years with them. Is he elite? No, not close.

By that definition Cassel is a franchise QB.

08-23-2012, 08:31 PM
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1550389	How are we supposed to draft a QB next year? This team is winning 7 games despite Cassel. There's just too much talent. So...just curious on how are we supposed to get this said "first round QB" when we'll probably draft in the middle teens (early twenties if everything goes perfectly). Pioli would be stupid to trade Bowe. You think he has the Pioli's to trade future high draft picks? I say no. He'll probably draft DB and piss us all off again.
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Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $6664388	GBNREPORT.COM ranks returning QBs as 1. Barkley* 2. Wilson* 3. Thomas 4. Bray 5. Jones* 6. Manuel* 7. Mettenberger 8. Murray 9. Smith* 10. Glennon* *=Sr
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08-24-2012, 08:03 AM	#97
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08-24-2012, 08:54 AM	#98
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $-760901	I'm on the Geno Smith bandwagon all the way. I loved what he was able to do after switching to a more 'conventional' offense last year. He's a lot like Tannehill in a lot of ways, though in my mind a slightly more talented version of him almost across the board. That said, I see Smith as being a guy that goes in the top 10 pretty easily and could potentially go top 5 if teams look to trade up. I think he'll be great this year. EDIT: I see that SNR and I have been in agreement on this one before.... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...highlight=Geno __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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