Chiefs DUI Checkpoint Expected after 8/24 Preseason Game - Page 2

Fish · 08-24-2012, 12:17 PM

Heads up for those attending tonight's preseason game. I've been told by some people supposedly in the know, that KC's finest will have DUI checkpoints up at several locations around KCMO. They'll be paying close attention to the game traffic leaving the stadium.

Arrange for a DD. Be careful after the game everybody!

Bump · 08-24-2012, 01:23 PM

holy shit! today is Friday?

Bump · 08-24-2012, 01:24 PM

dude I've been to many Chiefs games and if there really is a checkpoint, 90% of you guys are gonna get a DUI.

KC native · 08-24-2012, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited

They seem to like Ward Parkway as it splits into KS, SW Trafficway through Westport, and of course the Broadway Bridge. Wornall always seems to get a few during the Summer.

I would add right outside the Plaza.

They have their spots and usually stick to them.

**DaFace** · 08-24-2012, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon

With the team we got we have to

Drink? Sure. Drink and drive? Hardly.

**Bowser** · 08-24-2012, 02:01 PM

Didn't they have checkpoints set up after a Monday night game years ago that nabbed a ton of people? Haven't really heard of many checkpoints at Chiefs games after that.

BigCatDaddy · 08-24-2012, 02:05 PM

I remember about 15-20 years ago they did a checkpoint not too far from the stadium after a Monday night game and people weren't getting home until like 4-5 in the morning. Talk about some pissed off people.

**ptlyon** · 08-24-2012, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Slick

I remember about 15-20 years ago they did a checkpoint not too far from the stadium after a Monday night game and people weren't getting home until like 4-5 in the morning. Talk about some pissed off people.

After they got sprung?

BigCatDaddy · 08-24-2012, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon

After they got sprung?

Getting busted may have been a quicker way to get home.

verbaljitsu · 08-24-2012, 02:19 PM

These checkpoints are so stupid. KCMO Police has conducted 18 DUI checkpoints in the last 20 weeks. The arrest rate for DUI at these checkpoints has been between 2 and 3% going back for the last 5 years. The checkpoints are having somewhere near zero deterrent effect. Keep in mind, the police get to pick the time, place, and date. So on the worst day of the year, at the worst time, in the worst spot, 2-3% of people are driving under the influence. Then factor in that "under the influence" doesn't necessarily mean drunk.

What the checkpoints have done is give the department a basis to buy new toys, including a "Mobile Command Post" that cost $400,000.00. The checkpoints also serve as a fantastic way to get KCPD officers overtime and court time pay.

The checkpoints usually find several people driving on a revoked/suspended license or with some unpaid parking tickets, and a little bit of revenue is generated from that.

But the checkpoints really only do any social good if you think it is really a good idea to give the police department a way to set its own budget, even if it bankrupts the city. And that is before you start talking about "papers please" and the argument that American citizens shouldn't have to put up with this kind of crap. Or the fact that people who assert the few rights they have left at these checkpoints often get the crap beat out of them or tazed "for their own safety."

Drinking and driving is bad, but I'm convinced the checkpoints are worse.
Follow @kccheckpoint on twitter. It is really eye opening to see on a given Friday/Saturday night how many checkpoints there are, and how futile and pointless they seem to be when the results get released on Monday morning.

KC native · 08-24-2012, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Didn't they have checkpoints set up after a Monday night game years ago that nabbed a ton of people? Haven't really heard of many checkpoints at Chiefs games after that.

Yea, they did it on the interstate and caught a bunch of johnson county pricks so it became a big deal

**Bearcat** · 08-24-2012, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by verbaljitsu

These checkpoints are so stupid. KCMO Police has conducted 18 DUI checkpoints in the last 20 weeks. The arrest rate for DUI at these checkpoints has been between 2 and 3% going back for the last 5 years. The checkpoints are having somewhere near zero deterrent effect. Keep in mind, the police get to pick the time, place, and date. So on the worst day of the year, at the worst time, in the worst spot, 2-3% of people are driving under the influence. Then factor in that "under the influence" doesn't necessarily mean drunk.

What the checkpoints have done is give the department a basis to buy new toys, including a "Mobile Command Post" that cost $400,000.00. The checkpoints also serve as a fantastic way to get KCPD officers overtime and court time pay.

The checkpoints usually find several people driving on a revoked/suspended license or with some unpaid parking tickets, and a little bit of revenue is generated from that.

But the checkpoints really only do any social good if you think it is really a good idea to give the police department a way to set its own budget, even if it bankrupts the city. And that is before you start talking about "papers please" and the argument that American citizens shouldn't have to put up with this kind of crap. Or the fact that people who assert the few rights they have left at these checkpoints often get the crap beat out of them or tazed "for their own safety."

Drinking and driving is bad, but I'm convinced the checkpoints are worse.
Follow @kccheckpoint on twitter. It is really eye opening to see on a given Friday/Saturday night how many checkpoints there are, and how futile and pointless they seem to be when the results get released on Monday morning.

Is it supposed to be a deterrent for those who have never been caught? I wouldn't guess that it would be, especially when (at least in the past) they've been fairly specific on the time and location.

I'd think the 1st priority is to get the drunks off the road... and those fines can be pretty stiff, so I'd think getting caught once would be a pretty good deterrent. If this is typical, it seems like a decent number of arrests... and based on the checkpoints I've driven through in the past, 1) it's hardly an inconvenience (and I'm pretty freakin' impatient) and 2) since it's just an eyeball check, I doubt someone right at .08 would be stopped unless they were stupid (outside of being a little buzzed).

I'm sure you're right to an extent though... but, if they're going to raise money for themselves, at least they're also doing the rest of us a favor in the process, as opposed to something like pulling over everyone who gets caught driving a few mph over the speed limit.

clyde05 · 08-24-2012, 02:41 PM

Yes, that took me for ever to get home, was so excited when vanover ran back punt in overtime to win against San Diego on Monday night then we had to deal with stop and go traffic.

**ptlyon** · 08-24-2012, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by clyde05

Yes, that took me for ever to get home, was so excited when vanover ran back punt in overtime to win against San Diego on Monday night then we had to deal with stop and go traffic.

Dandy I was at that game & didn't expirence a checkpoint

**bevischief** · 08-24-2012, 03:50 PM

Up here we have a few companies that for $25 dollars will drive you and your car home.

Stewie · 08-24-2012, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by KC native

Yea, they did it on the interstate and caught a bunch of johnson county pricks so it became a big deal

Yeah, the KCMO pricks sat just east of State Line to "protect and serve KCMO"... not for a money-grab or anything like that.

KCMO cop: We figured they weren't above the limit until they juuuust got to the KS line (miles and miles from Arrowhead). Then we nabbed those rich assholes. It's how we laggards in Missouri work. We can't do anything ourselves... we rely tremendously on Johnson County for every penny we can squeeze.

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BigCatDaddy The Beast Inside Your Head Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $-1730878	I remember about 15-20 years ago they did a checkpoint not too far from the stadium after a Monday night game and people weren't getting home until like 4-5 in the morning. Talk about some pissed off people.
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verbaljitsu Starter Join Date: Dec 2009 Casino cash: $10013092	These checkpoints are so stupid. KCMO Police has conducted 18 DUI checkpoints in the last 20 weeks. The arrest rate for DUI at these checkpoints has been between 2 and 3% going back for the last 5 years. The checkpoints are having somewhere near zero deterrent effect. Keep in mind, the police get to pick the time, place, and date. So on the worst day of the year, at the worst time, in the worst spot, 2-3% of people are driving under the influence. Then factor in that "under the influence" doesn't necessarily mean drunk. What the checkpoints have done is give the department a basis to buy new toys, including a "Mobile Command Post" that cost $400,000.00. The checkpoints also serve as a fantastic way to get KCPD officers overtime and court time pay. The checkpoints usually find several people driving on a revoked/suspended license or with some unpaid parking tickets, and a little bit of revenue is generated from that. But the checkpoints really only do any social good if you think it is really a good idea to give the police department a way to set its own budget, even if it bankrupts the city. And that is before you start talking about "papers please" and the argument that American citizens shouldn't have to put up with this kind of crap. Or the fact that people who assert the few rights they have left at these checkpoints often get the crap beat out of them or tazed "for their own safety." Drinking and driving is bad, but I'm convinced the checkpoints are worse. Follow @kccheckpoint on twitter. It is really eye opening to see on a given Friday/Saturday night how many checkpoints there are, and how futile and pointless they seem to be when the results get released on Monday morning.
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