I think the QB of the future may be on our roster already.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

It's been talked about before....but his shot in Cleveland was ****ed. He got drafted as the QBoTF. Anderson went out and earned a new contract.....so they weren't going to bench Anderson over Quinn. Quinn finally got his shot....and got injured. Crennel got fired and Mangini came in and completely ****ed up that QB situation. He would bench Anderson and start Quinn until Quinn made a mistake....and then he would bench Quinn for Anderson. Rinse and repeat.

Could he have played better when he had his shot? **** yes.

Go look at all of the teams that he's played on. This team surrounds him with the talent that he's never really had.

I dont disagree with any of that, but he had his chances to beat out Derick Anderson and couldnt do it.

He might get his shot again someday and do well, but at this point in time, its pointless to continue whining about him starting over Cassel.

I have no expectations about Quinn. None. The realist in me thinks hes not any better than Cassel overall though. Just because a guy has a stronger arm doesnt make him better.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

I dont disagree with any of that, but he had his chances to beat out Derick Anderson and couldnt do it.

He might get his shot again someday and do well, but at this point in time, its pointless to continue whining about him starting over Cassel.

I have no expectations about Quinn. None. The realist in me thinks hes not any better than Cassel overall though. Just because a guy has a stronger arm doesnt make him better.

I disagree. If both have their limitations - decision making, accuracy, pocket awareness - then I will take the guy who has one less limitation - arm strength.

At least Quinn can get it to the receivers 35 yards downfield when they're open. Whether or not the throw is accurate, I don't know. But he can get it there, which is more than I can say for Cassel.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

I dont disagree with any of that, but he had his chances to beat out Derick Anderson and couldnt do it.

Since Derek Anderson played for my alma mater, I watched a lot of the Browns back when he was with them. The plan Quinn's rookie year was to bring him along slowly behind Charlie Frye. Frye sucked so bad during the opening game of that year (2007) that they pulled him and DA came in and played fairly well.

The following week, the Browns traded Frye to Seattle (while Holmgren was coach there, BlackBob - nice QB guru there) and DA started the following game and threw for 328 yards and five touchdowns. It was his job the rest of the way. He threw for 29 tds and almost 4000 yards and the Brown finished 10-6. DA made the Pro Bowl the Cassel way (1st alternate).

After his excellent season, the Browns gave him a big contract, so there was no way he was going to be beat out by Quinn the next year. Unfortunately, DA (and a lot of the rest of the team) fell off a cliff that year. DA was pulled partway through the season, Quinn was put in and was promptly hurt and lost for the season. DA came back in and also was injured and lost for the season. Crennel got fired after the season.

The next year, Mangini came on board and spent most of the season playing QB hokey pokey, constantly pulling one QB for the other. They also had lost a lot of their offensive talent by then and neither QB had many weapons.

I'm not a Quinn fan but I don't see anyone that saw that cluster**** with the Browns and would objectively think that Quinn ever had the shot to develop that most first round QBs get normally.