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**Tribal Warfare** · 09-03-2012, 07:50 PM

Johnson, Toribio and Lewis sit out Chiefs practice with injuries
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star
The Chiefs began their practice week Monday without four defensive starters, including their two Pro Bowl linebackers. They’re preparing to play against the Atlanta Falcons, who were seventh in the NFL in scoring last season, that could present a problem.

The situation could improve some by the time the Chiefs and Falcons open their seasons against one another on Sunday at Arrowhead Stadium. But even early in the week, things were far from ideal.

“You’d like to have all your guys all the time,” coach Romeo Crennel said. “But in this business you don’t have all of them all the time and so you have to depend on other guys to step up and do their part when they’re called on.”

Linebacker Derrick Johnson, nose tackle Anthony Toribio and free safety Kendrick Lewis didn’t go through team portions of practice. Johnson and Toribio have injured ankle, Lewis an injured shoulder.

Johnson, injured in the final preseason game against the Packers, appeared the most likely of the group to be ready for Sunday’s game.

“As long as I make progress every day, that’s the plan,” Johnson said when asked whether he would play against the Falcons. “I am a fast healer. Let’s hope that this week I can be even faster.”

The Chiefs’ other Pro Bowl linebacker, Tamha Hali, will not play against Atlanta. He is serving his one-game suspension for violating the NFL’s substance-abuse policy.

Cornerback Brandon Flowers, who didn’t play in the preseason and hadn’t practiced for more than a month, was back to work Monday. But Flowers, who has what the Chiefs have called as bruised heel, said he didn’t know if he would play Sunday and suggested the decision might come down to day of the game.

“If I’m out there on Sunday, then that means I’m ready to go,” he said “We’ll know game day.”

For one day, at least, the Chiefs patched together a lineup that included backups in four spots. Cory Greenwood and Brandon Siler took turns at Johnson’s position. Rookie Dontari Poe is starting for Toribio and veteran Abe Elam for Lewis.

Andy Studebaker, Edgar Jones and Cameron Sheffield have been rotating in Hali’s spot.

“Particularly (in Hali’s spot), that’s what has to happen,” Crennel said. “We’ll have to rotate guys in there and we will during the course of the week and I expect all of them to step and to be able to produce. Now, are they going to produce the way Tamba is able to produce? Only time will tell that.”

All coaches have jitters the opening week of the season given the uncertainty of what lies ahead. Even before the injuries, suspension and resulting lineup changes, this would have been an anxious week for Crennel.

The Chiefs are one of the NFL’s youngest teams. They have five players who are 30 and they are the oldest. Heading into their ninth NFL seasons, guard Ryan Lilja and special teams player Terrance Copper have the most NFL experience.

“If you have a veteran team (with players) who have proven themselves and that you feel good about, I think you can be less anxious,” Crennel said. “I think everybody gets anxious when the season starts. But if you’ve got a veteran team and you’re solid all across the board, then I think you can be less anxious because you know what you have.

“(The Chiefs) have some young players who have to play and we all know that young players make mistakes. You don’t know how many mistakes they’re going to make or what a mistake might cost you during the course of the game. Some guys, when there are 70,000 or 80,000 in the stands and they know that it counts, they react differently. We’re going to have to see how all of that plays out.”

Adding to the mystery about how well the Chiefs will play on Sunday is their uneven preseason. The Chiefs went 1-3 with the starters playing well in the first and fourth games but not so in the middle two, when the defense was particularly disappointing.

Crennel said he takes comfort in the fact the Chiefs have gotten it done, even if not consistently.

“In the first preseason game, the way they executed in that game and then the last game, they showed they could execute at a good level,” he said. “So I think they gave us enough to feel good about going into the regular season.

“One of the things I wanted to do was to be able to say we could be solid and sound coming out of the last (preseason) game. I think from our play versus their first guys, we were solid and sound coming out of that game.”

Atlanta was also 1-3 in the exhibition season, losing to Baltimore, Cincinnati and Jacksonville while beating Miami. The Falcons made the playoffs in each of the past two seasons, though they lost their playoff game each time.

“This is a good Atlanta team coming in,” Crennel said. “They have some skill on all sides of the ball, really. So we’re going to have to play our best to win.”

Ceej · 09-04-2012, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

There are none, because he's a POS.

Bingo.

Served up the meatball, knocked it out of the park.

Black Bob · 09-04-2012, 08:42 PM

Brandon Siler Chargers Forum Thread

They hated to lose him. Why? Because he was a great tackler.

http://forums.chargers.com/showthread.php?t=88889

Here's a thread about how they wanted back when we signed him the second time.

http://forums.chargers.com/showthread.php?t=92246

NJChiefsFan · 09-04-2012, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob

Go back to the beginning and you'll get the bet. Is it outlandish to say that every chiefs fan knows he misses tackles? Siler is a better tackler. You can see it clearly if you watch the two. The stats prove it. DJ has more missed tackles per attempt than Siler. It's in the thread.

Show them then. They are not in this thread. Your bet is so twisted its not even funny. Nobody is saying he won't miss a tackle, they are saying he is a better tackle than Siler. Your bet does not relate to that argument.

O.city · 09-04-2012, 08:48 PM

Back to the topic at hand.

Wondering what happened today in regards to the injured.

**The Franchise** · 09-04-2012, 09:18 PM

GIFs or GTFO

**BigMeatballDave** · 09-04-2012, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackBob

Brandon Siler Chargers Forum Thread

They hated to lose him. Why? Because he was a great tackler.

http://forums.chargers.com/showthread.php?t=88889

Here's a thread about how they wanted back when we signed him the second time.

http://forums.chargers.com/showthread.php?t=92246

Black Bob · 09-04-2012, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

If BlackBob can post ONE GIF of Siler making a tackle on a guy in the open field, I'll leave CP forever.

I can't find one. I found a sack and a coupleof 4th and goal stops but no gifs. It's pretty funny you can't find a single gif of Siler but can find like 6-10 of DJ missing tackles.

O.city · 09-04-2012, 09:28 PM

BECAUSE NO ONE HAS ENOUGH TIME IN THEIR LIVES OR GIVES TWO SHITS ABOUT MAKING GIFS OF SILER.

Pasta Little Brioni · 09-04-2012, 09:30 PM

I can't believe this argument is still going on...Wow

Black Bob · 09-04-2012, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

Show them then. They are not in this thread. Your bet is so twisted its not even funny. Nobody is saying he won't miss a tackle, they are saying he is a better tackle than Siler. Your bet does not relate to that argument.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning
DJ missed 10 tackles last year. One every 104 snaps.

3 more than Ray Lewis.

For comparison, Brandon Siler has missed five tackles in his last 708 snaps. One every 141 snaps.

This is a pretty stupid discussion. Especially since you don't know what Siler's missed tackles would look like if he was a 3-down player. He'd probably get juked out of his jock in space.

Probably? That's pure speculation

Black Bob · 09-04-2012, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

BECAUSE NO ONE HAS ENOUGH TIME IN THEIR LIVES OR GIVES TWO SHITS ABOUT MAKING GIFS OF SILER.

Maybe? But why is it so easy to find gifs of DJ missing tackles?

Brock · 09-04-2012, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackBob

Probably? That's pure speculation

It's pure speculation that Siler is inferior to Johnson in every measureable way?

O.city · 09-04-2012, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackBob

Maybe? But why is it so easy to find gifs of DJ missing tackles?

Because DJ has been a Chief, played every snap as a Chief his whole career, and this is a Chiefs website?

**RealSNR** · 09-04-2012, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackBob

Maybe? But why is it so easy to find gifs of DJ missing tackles?

Good ****ing Christ.

Nobody can be this goddamned stupid.

Black Bob · 09-04-2012, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

[IMG]

I'l just go ahead and post them and you can go down with your ship.

Quote:

From the Chargers forum:

"I think Siler may be one of those guys that is known by his team's fans as a solid player, but is unknown around the rest of the country."

"Siler a terrific run stuffing 3-4 ILB and special teamer. He has a knack for making big plays when on the field."

"I hope we keep him. He is good for certain situations and on special teams as mentioned."

"I really do hope he stays."

"Him and TKO on obvious run downs would be pretty deadly."

"Lets all take a moment a pray that he signs"

"Already saying a few hail mary's on this one"

"Wasn't Siler part of that famous 4th down goal line stand in the 2009 game against the Cowboys?"

"He was. I think letting Siler walk would be a mistake. This guy brings it when he's out there. he had a sack in that Dallas game also"

"What's the depth at middle linebacker right now? There's 3 ILB's that are not here right now that were last year. How does Siler not get resigned?"

"The mistake that some here on CMB make, is they pigeon hole certain players into roles and they don't stay openminded enough to realize that if given a chance they could do much more. I will bring up the Titans game on Christmas Eve in 2009 when Siler had a pick and played very well in coverage. It comes down to getting a shot to show he could do more. IMO, Siler has always done what was asked of him. Be it short yardage, ST's, etc.
I would very much like to get Siler re-signed and I would expect him to continue to do everything that is asked from him. His skill set coming out of college was much better than where we were able to draft him, in fact in his draft class he was rated the 2nd best ILB. For all the talk of needing to stop power run teams as a big problem for this defense, Siler should be a no brainer."

"He's also only 25, so there is still room for growth in areas he may be weak in."

"It bothers me as well....I just have to have faith that things work out and Bolts sign him...I must admit I will be big time disappointed if he signs with another team. The man makes plays, every time when giving the opportunity, he has stood out. Guy has loads of potential to be a quality starter for years to come"

"I'll bring up the Seahawks game in 2010. It was Siler who picked up a safety which gave the team a chance to come back against Seattle."

"He just signed with the Chiefs"

"Well this debate is over he signed with the Chiefs the traitor"

http://forums.chargers.com/showthread.php?t=88889

09-03-2012, 07:50 PM
Tribal Warfare Man of Culture Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $-2777187	Teicher: Johnson, Toribio and Lewis sit out Chiefs practice with injuries Johnson, Toribio and Lewis sit out Chiefs practice with injuries By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star The Chiefs began their practice week Monday without four defensive starters, including their two Pro Bowl linebackers. They’re preparing to play against the Atlanta Falcons, who were seventh in the NFL in scoring last season, that could present a problem. The situation could improve some by the time the Chiefs and Falcons open their seasons against one another on Sunday at Arrowhead Stadium. But even early in the week, things were far from ideal. “You’d like to have all your guys all the time,” coach Romeo Crennel said. “But in this business you don’t have all of them all the time and so you have to depend on other guys to step up and do their part when they’re called on.” Linebacker Derrick Johnson, nose tackle Anthony Toribio and free safety Kendrick Lewis didn’t go through team portions of practice. Johnson and Toribio have injured ankle, Lewis an injured shoulder. Johnson, injured in the final preseason game against the Packers, appeared the most likely of the group to be ready for Sunday’s game. “As long as I make progress every day, that’s the plan,” Johnson said when asked whether he would play against the Falcons. “I am a fast healer. Let’s hope that this week I can be even faster.” The Chiefs’ other Pro Bowl linebacker, Tamha Hali, will not play against Atlanta. He is serving his one-game suspension for violating the NFL’s substance-abuse policy. Cornerback Brandon Flowers, who didn’t play in the preseason and hadn’t practiced for more than a month, was back to work Monday. But Flowers, who has what the Chiefs have called as bruised heel, said he didn’t know if he would play Sunday and suggested the decision might come down to day of the game. “If I’m out there on Sunday, then that means I’m ready to go,” he said “We’ll know game day.” For one day, at least, the Chiefs patched together a lineup that included backups in four spots. Cory Greenwood and Brandon Siler took turns at Johnson’s position. Rookie Dontari Poe is starting for Toribio and veteran Abe Elam for Lewis. Andy Studebaker, Edgar Jones and Cameron Sheffield have been rotating in Hali’s spot. “Particularly (in Hali’s spot), that’s what has to happen,” Crennel said. “We’ll have to rotate guys in there and we will during the course of the week and I expect all of them to step and to be able to produce. Now, are they going to produce the way Tamba is able to produce? Only time will tell that.” All coaches have jitters the opening week of the season given the uncertainty of what lies ahead. Even before the injuries, suspension and resulting lineup changes, this would have been an anxious week for Crennel. The Chiefs are one of the NFL’s youngest teams. They have five players who are 30 and they are the oldest. Heading into their ninth NFL seasons, guard Ryan Lilja and special teams player Terrance Copper have the most NFL experience. “If you have a veteran team (with players) who have proven themselves and that you feel good about, I think you can be less anxious,” Crennel said. “I think everybody gets anxious when the season starts. But if you’ve got a veteran team and you’re solid all across the board, then I think you can be less anxious because you know what you have. “(The Chiefs) have some young players who have to play and we all know that young players make mistakes. You don’t know how many mistakes they’re going to make or what a mistake might cost you during the course of the game. Some guys, when there are 70,000 or 80,000 in the stands and they know that it counts, they react differently. We’re going to have to see how all of that plays out.” Adding to the mystery about how well the Chiefs will play on Sunday is their uneven preseason. The Chiefs went 1-3 with the starters playing well in the first and fourth games but not so in the middle two, when the defense was particularly disappointing. Crennel said he takes comfort in the fact the Chiefs have gotten it done, even if not consistently. “In the first preseason game, the way they executed in that game and then the last game, they showed they could execute at a good level,” he said. “So I think they gave us enough to feel good about going into the regular season. “One of the things I wanted to do was to be able to say we could be solid and sound coming out of the last (preseason) game. I think from our play versus their first guys, we were solid and sound coming out of that game.” Atlanta was also 1-3 in the exhibition season, losing to Baltimore, Cincinnati and Jacksonville while beating Miami. The Falcons made the playoffs in each of the past two seasons, though they lost their playoff game each time. “This is a good Atlanta team coming in,” Crennel said. “They have some skill on all sides of the ball, really. So we’re going to have to play our best to win.”
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