Chiefs I think the QB of the future may be on our roster already. - Page 17

Coogs · 09-03-2012, 01:26 PM

Laugh if you must, but I really think the QB we are looking for might be Brady Quinn.

I re-watched the game from last Thursday this morning. All-in-all, I felt like Quinn was very sharp... given the fact that he just started getting some time with the first string players earlier in the week.

Cassel's only pass, and Quinn's first pass were nearly the identical same play. Bowe had to go to the ground to catch Cassel's throw. Breaston caught Quinn's right were the ball should have been thrown, and turned it up-field for 3 or so more yards.

Quinn's 2nd pass was a beautifully thrown ball that hit Baldwin right in stride, and Baldwin was able to turn it up for several more yards.

The next two passes were highly criticized around here after/since the game. I did not see that much there that can not be fixed... once Quinn gets more time with the #1's to get timing issues worked out. All thorughout OTA's and Training Camp, I never recall hearing Quinn (or Stanzi) making any plays with any #1 receivers. Not even during drills.

Anyway. On the first one, as slant pass to Baldwin, it looks like just a matter of timing. They were on the same page... but just didn't connect. More reps together to develop some chemistry, and that is a TD easily.

The next play... which was an Interception that was negated by a penalty on the Packers... that had a whistle blown in the middle of the play... it appeared that Baldwin and Quinn were not on the same page. Quinn's pass appeared that he expected Baldwin to go inside instead of on the fade route that Baldwin ran. Again, more reps together to develop the right chemistry so they are reading the right thing. Baldwin cuts inside, and that is a TD. Quinn throws the fade pass, and it is also probably a TD. Not on same page. That has to be understandable given the minimal amount of time the two have had together.

Next drive was all backups. Line and skill players.

3rd and 7. Hits Bellamy right on the button for an easy first down.

3rd and 9. Hits Manari right on the numbers for another first down.

3rd and 8. QB draw type of run that would have made Elway proud right up to the non-slide that got him slightly injured.

Then the next pass that has been widely criticized around here. The Interception on the back of the endzone. Again, this was with his backups and not the starters, which gives no excuse to Quinn. BUT... he starts out looking to his left. Staying with his progression, he moves to the middle of the field. At this point, Harris is getting his ass kicked by a Packers defender causing Quinn to have to step up into the pocket, which is collapsing under the 2nd string line. A half of a second more at the most, and Manari is comming wide open on a TE drag across just a little right of where Quinn made the decision to throw. Tiny bit better pocket, and that ball goes to Manari if Quinn has the time to finish his reads and that is an easy TD.

That is all the further I watched. And that was all the further I needed to watch. I am convinced Quinn is going to be just what the doctor ordered for this team. All he needs is more time with the #1's to get on the same page with them.

I know Cassel is the starter for now. I can accept that. He is not the best QB though. And it is not even going to be close... in time.

Setsuna · 09-04-2012, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob

Maybe that's because he's not coaching dumbass. GM's don't develop players. Go back and read my post. He had no faith in Quinn so he signed Delhomme. An old ass QB who could run an offense. He was desperate.

What position? #2 QB?

It's going to be funny when Cassel has a good year. Some of you will still hate him but it will be funny when we keep passing on QBs next year in the draft.

He's going to have a good year.

You better hope not or you will never see a playoff win in your lifetime.

Setsuna · 09-04-2012, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by whoman69

Quinn doesn't have a ceiling.

Brady Quinn's career stats extrapolated to a full season:

245-470 52.1 % 2536 yards, 13TD, 12INT, 5.4 YPA

Those numbers are more Tebow-like than Cassel-like

Tebow's ceiling is higher than any QB currently on your roster. OWNED.

Frankie · 09-04-2012, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Quinn misses an easy touchdown on a 5 yard slant by throwing the ball 10 feet behind Baldwin and throws an end zone interception. Now he's the savior of the Chiefs.

After that he totally went to shit too. Mr. Poise!

At least Stanzi has a reputation of not letting his mistakes bother him.

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoman69

Quinn doesn't have a ceiling.

Brady Quinn's career stats extrapolated to a full season:

245-470 52.1 % 2536 yards, 13TD, 12INT, 5.4 YPA

Those numbers are more Tebow-like than Cassel-like

So the sky is his ceiling according to your post.

OK, I'm joshing with you. I understand what you meant, so.... THIS!

NJChiefsFan · 09-04-2012, 10:58 PM

The truth is that none of these guys should be starting QBs, and hopefully next year the argument is on who WILL replace them, and not if someone will.

Coogs · 09-05-2012, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

First of all it wasn't Baldwin IIRC. Not that it matters, but I think it may have been Newsome. I can't remember, all I know that it wasn't Baldwin or any of the main starters.

Secondly....the WR stopped in his route. Ball was still somewhat poorly thrown...but not entirely his fault.

Either way he's nowhere close to being the savior for KC or should he even be starting NFL reg season games.

It was Baldwin. And I addressed the Int (both of them if you go back and look). But just for you, if Harris blocks a little better, it is a TD waiting to happen as Manari is breaking wide open right in Quinn's progression of reads, but Harris's blown block changes things. Still a bad pass that shouldn't have been made.

And I didn't say he "IS" the QBotF. I said he "MAY BE". This team doesn't need a Dan Mariino. It just needs someone better than a 135 rushing yards we win, less than 135 rushing yards we lose QB that is now in place.

Don't see why some around here get so upset for folks who want more than this.

Coogs · 09-05-2012, 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence

And before someone comes out and calls me a Quinn homer.......I'm not saying that if Quinn was starting....that he would be out competing with Brady, Brees or Rodgers. He's not that type of QB. But he is better than Cassel....and he won't go out there and just complete checkdown passes to McCluster all ****ing game.

This!

**Guru** · 09-05-2012, 06:26 AM

I thought this thread would have died by now.

DBOSHO · 09-05-2012, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

It was Baldwin. And I addressed the Int (both of them if you go back and look). But just for you, if Harris blocks a little better, it is a TD waiting to happen as Manari is breaking wide open right in Quinn's progression of reads, but Harris's blown block changes things. Still a bad pass that shouldn't have been made.

And I didn't say he "IS" the QBotF. I said he "MAY BE". This team doesn't need a Dan Mariino. It just needs someone better than a 135 rushing yards we win, less than 135 rushing yards we lose QB that is now in place.

Don't see why some around here get so upset for folks who want more than this.

If youre talking about quinns int in the endzone, it wasnt badwin. It was 84, which i believe was newsome.

Chiefnj2 · 09-05-2012, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru

I thought this thread would have died by now.

This thread has lasted longer than Quinn's career as a starter.

CoMoChief · 09-05-2012, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DBOSHO

If youre talking about quinns int in the endzone, it wasnt badwin. It was 84, which i believe was newsome.

That's who I thought it was too.

I deleted the game from DVR, otherwise I'd go back and check. But I was almost sure it was Newsome.

Someone copied the game play by play from ESPN or something....I still don't believe it. I saw Newsome as well...and while it was a poorly thrown ball...the WR made matters much worse by stopping in his route, allowing the DB to step in front of the pass.

htismaqe · 09-05-2012, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

This thread has lasted longer than Quinn's career as a starter.

Awesome.

CoMoChief · 09-05-2012, 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

This thread has lasted longer than Quinn's career as a starter.

But hey he just needs a chance....a change of scenery, he CAN be our QBOTF!!!! /CP

Reerun_KC · 09-05-2012, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

This thread has lasted longer than Quinn's career as a starter.

Holy

Reerun_KC · 09-05-2012, 08:31 AM

Its funny how it went from Stanzi saving this franchise to now Quinn... Can these threads get any more absurd... They sure are entertaining to say the least...

crazycoffey · 09-05-2012, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

So tell me....what did you "see" that led you to come to this hilarious conclusion?

I'm not wasting my time trying to convince you. OP says alot of it.

09-03-2012, 01:26 PM
Coogs MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Northern Kansas Casino cash: $72155	I think the QB of the future may be on our roster already. Laugh if you must, but I really think the QB we are looking for might be Brady Quinn. I re-watched the game from last Thursday this morning. All-in-all, I felt like Quinn was very sharp... given the fact that he just started getting some time with the first string players earlier in the week. Cassel's only pass, and Quinn's first pass were nearly the identical same play. Bowe had to go to the ground to catch Cassel's throw. Breaston caught Quinn's right were the ball should have been thrown, and turned it up-field for 3 or so more yards. Quinn's 2nd pass was a beautifully thrown ball that hit Baldwin right in stride, and Baldwin was able to turn it up for several more yards. The next two passes were highly criticized around here after/since the game. I did not see that much there that can not be fixed... once Quinn gets more time with the #1's to get timing issues worked out. All thorughout OTA's and Training Camp, I never recall hearing Quinn (or Stanzi) making any plays with any #1 receivers. Not even during drills. Anyway. On the first one, as slant pass to Baldwin, it looks like just a matter of timing. They were on the same page... but just didn't connect. More reps together to develop some chemistry, and that is a TD easily. The next play... which was an Interception that was negated by a penalty on the Packers... that had a whistle blown in the middle of the play... it appeared that Baldwin and Quinn were not on the same page. Quinn's pass appeared that he expected Baldwin to go inside instead of on the fade route that Baldwin ran. Again, more reps together to develop the right chemistry so they are reading the right thing. Baldwin cuts inside, and that is a TD. Quinn throws the fade pass, and it is also probably a TD. Not on same page. That has to be understandable given the minimal amount of time the two have had together. Next drive was all backups. Line and skill players. 3rd and 7. Hits Bellamy right on the button for an easy first down. 3rd and 9. Hits Manari right on the numbers for another first down. 3rd and 8. QB draw type of run that would have made Elway proud right up to the non-slide that got him slightly injured. Then the next pass that has been widely criticized around here. The Interception on the back of the endzone. Again, this was with his backups and not the starters, which gives no excuse to Quinn. BUT... he starts out looking to his left. Staying with his progression, he moves to the middle of the field. At this point, Harris is getting his ass kicked by a Packers defender causing Quinn to have to step up into the pocket, which is collapsing under the 2nd string line. A half of a second more at the most, and Manari is comming wide open on a TE drag across just a little right of where Quinn made the decision to throw. Tiny bit better pocket, and that ball goes to Manari if Quinn has the time to finish his reads and that is an easy TD. That is all the further I watched. And that was all the further I needed to watch. I am convinced Quinn is going to be just what the doctor ordered for this team. All he needs is more time with the #1's to get on the same page with them. I know Cassel is the starter for now. I can accept that. He is not the best QB though. And it is not even going to be close... in time.
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Reerun_KC Rock Chalk Jayhawks! KU!!! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kansas Jayhawks Casino cash: $2423887	Its funny how it went from Stanzi saving this franchise to now Quinn... Can these threads get any more absurd... They sure are entertaining to say the least...
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