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**Tribal Warfare** · 09-04-2012, 08:40 PM

Gonzalez looking forward to his homecoming
By RANDY COVITZ
The Kansas City Star
As Atlanta Falcons tight end Tony Gonzalez watched tape of the Chiefs-Seahawks preseason game, his eyes strayed from the field and scanned the sidelines and stands.

He looked for the changes that were made to Arrowhead Stadium. (He’s not a big fan of eliminating the permanent Ring of Honor). He searched for people on the sidelines that he remembered. And he tried recognizing fans.

Gonzalez, a future Hall of Famer, couldn’t have asked for a better script to his farewell season in the NFL. He will begin his 16th season in the place where he spent his first 12 years — Arrowhead Stadium — when the Falcons open the regular season Sunday against the Chiefs.

“I’ve got to say thank you to the NFL people for scheduling it the first game of the season,” said Gonzalez, whose 174 starts for the Chiefs during 1997-2008 rank second in club history. “The only way it could be more special … is if it was the last game of the season, and there were playoff implications.

“The most special part about it is the fans. There’s no doubt about it. That’s what I miss, the fans, the atmosphere. The fan support they gave me and my family, I count that as my family because they’re always there with me when I’m on the field.”

Gonzalez, 36, left Kansas City in a trade he requested at the end of the 2008 season because at that stage of his career he didn’t want to endure another rebuilding program with a new administration and coaching staff. This will be his first regular-season game against the Chiefs since the trade for a second-round draft choice who turned out to be cornerback Javier Arenas.

“Everybody is asking me, ‘What’s it like in there? Is the stadium loud?’ ” Gonzalez said of his Atlanta teammates, who last played at Arrowhead in 2004. “And, I’m like, ‘Oh yeah, it’s going to be crazy, it’s opening day, they’ve got a pretty good football team … wait until you hear the national anthem, and wait until you hear, after every first down, the whole crowd shouting, ‘That’s a Chiefs’ first down!’ ”

When Gonzalez left Kansas City, he already was the most prolific pass receiver in Chiefs history and the NFL’s all-time leader for receptions (916), yards (10,940), touchdown catches (76) and Pro Bowl appearances (10) by a tight end. He famously punctuated his touchdowns by dunking the ball over the crossbar.

In his three seasons with the Falcons, he’s become the second-leading receiver of all time with 1,149 receptions, trailing only Jerry Rice, and ranks ninth all-time with 95 touchdowns. He has also added two more Pro Bowls.

But the number that stands out to most to Gonzalez is 17. That’s the number of passes he dropped in 1998, his second year with the Chiefs. It proved to be the turning point of his career.

He began reading inspirational books, including those written about Vince Lombardi, Michael Jordan and by coaches such as Lou Holtz and Pat Riley. Those books taught Gonzalez about focus and dedication. Already a gym rat from his two-sport career at the University of California, where he also started for the basketball team, Gonzalez sought advice from veterans such as Will Shields, Tony Richardson and Marcus Allen and intensified his practice routine before and after practice, running precise routes by himself and catching passes well before practice and long after everyone left.

“That was the year that prompted everything,” Gonzalez said. “Embarrassment motivates you. I figured out how to work. It wasn’t a problem with work ethic. It was a problem with concentrating the right way, preparing the right way, and realizing that’s how you move forward, by making mistakes. That’s what I tell young guys around me, it’s fine to get it wrong. The true pro is the guy who will learn from his mistakes and not them happen over and over again.”

Gonzalez caught 76 passes for 849 yards and a still career-best 11 touchdowns in 1999, the first of his 10 straight Pro Bowl seasons with the Chiefs.

“Like all of us, and Tony’s no exception, he had to learn how to become a professional,” said Rich Gannon, a Chiefs quarterback during Gonzalez’ first two seasons, “and do the little things it takes to be an elite player at his position.

“When you put the ball on the ground, you struggle with your confidence a little bit. But once he turned the corner, he never looked back. There are certain players, in a critical situation, when you get in a huddle, their eyes light up. They want to be in the middle of it, if you got the ball to them, they’d make a big play. Jerry Rice is one of those players. Tony Gonzalez is one of those players.”

While Gonzalez has said 2012 will be his final NFL season, he’s left himself just a little wiggle room. He says he’s “95 percent sure” he’ll be retiring. He’s 400 receptions behind Rice for the all-time lead, but said he won’t be around long enough to touch that record.

“I feel good physically,” said Gonzalez, who has averaged 78 catches a year in his three seasons with the Falcons. “I could easily play another two years, maybe three years, at a decent level. I know for sure right now, I can play my type of ball. I just don’t want to be one of those guys who is out there still on the field and people are saying, ‘He’s lost a step, or he’s not even close to what he used to be.’

“You’re not going to have to drag me off the field. I want to go out playing my type of football … and that’s at the top. It’s no secret, I want to be one of the best when I’m out there on the field, and I couldn’t take it any other way.”

And just as Gonzalez, the Chiefs’ first-round pick in 1997, learned from his elders, he’s passed on tips of the trade to his younger Atlanta teammates that have helped the Falcons go to the playoffs twice in his three seasons, including 13-3 in 2010. Unfortunately, he’s still looking for that elusive first postseason win of his career, having gone 0-3 with the Chiefs.

“That gets tough,” Gonzalez said of his lack of postseason success. “Kansas City deserves better. We were never able to get over that hump. … It’s the only sad part about it that I can think of in my time in Kansas City. I hope this year can be different. We’ve got a really good football team in Atlanta.

“Winning cures everything. (Quarterback) Matt Ryan is one of the best, and (wide receiver) Roddy White … I got lucky. They traded me to a pretty good team. To be honest, it wasn’t the team (I wanted)… it was one of the teams, but it wasn’t my top choice. I’m glad it worked out the way it did.”

Gonzalez, whose off-field interests may be among the most diverse in the NFL, hasn’t given a lot of thought to what he’ll do after he retires.

He’s owned businesses in Kansas City; he’s written books on nutrition and for youth based on his experience growing up as a bullied multicultural youngster; he’s appeared on television shows, including Oprah Winfrey’s “Big Give” and “Arliss”; and he’s active in the community with his foundation, including Shadow Buddies in Kansas City, where smiling dolls are given to ailing children and the elderly.

“I’m thinking about television,” Gonzalez said of a role as a game or studio analyst. “It would be a great way to stay around the game.”

During Gonzalez’ rookie year, tight ends coach Jim Erkenbeck would hand out tests to his players, and besides quizzing them on their assignments, the coach would throw in a trivia or current-events question.

One of the questions in 1997 was “Who’s Pete Rozelle?” A 21-year-old Tony Gonzalez was stuck for an answer (Paul Tagliabue was the NFL commissioner then), and he answered: “The governor of Missouri.”

Gonzalez can laugh about that now.

“To look back, I can’t believe how naive and unprepared I was,” Gonzalez said. “Football is a great life teacher. Fortunately, I was able to learn from it, and it’s taken me to where we’re at today. I grew up in Kansas City. I became a man in Kansas City. … Unbelievable memories … the teams I was able to play on, the players I was around … being able to play for Lamar Hunt, one of the innovators of the game. It was a cool history to have as a player.”

Gonzalez’ family will be on hand for Sunday’s game. His mom from California, his wife, oldest son Nikko, folks from the Shadow Buddies and former teammates, including Richardson, Jason Dunn, Shawn Barber and Kevin Lockett will be there as Gonzalez likely will extend his streak to 164 consecutive games with a reception, the longest active streak in the league and fourth all-time.

“I still love the game, I’m really enjoying it and am able to be effective, so I’m going to enjoy this year,” Gonzalez said. “It kind of makes it more special, too, knowing this is the last time I’ll be at Arrowhead. The last time. That’s a luxury.

“How many guys can say that? How many guys can say this is my last year, and I’m going out on my terms? I feel very lucky.”

KCrockaholic · 09-05-2012, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave

It would be, but had we kept Gonzales I seriously doubt we sign Boss.

Exactly... Just to think, we could have kept Gonzalez and drafted Jimmy Graham instead of Moeaki.

Chiefs Pantalones · 09-05-2012, 02:13 AM

I just wish he would've been more loyal, patient and willing to be part of the solution not the problem. It says a lot about the type of person he is off the field which is a major "me" douche. I love what he did for us but you can't expect every fan favorite to be a Kurt Warner type of person in this business. I get that Tony is a dick, it just sucks because you don't wanna believe it.

NJChiefsFan · 09-05-2012, 02:15 AM

I wonder if we even draft a TE in that spot if Pioli thinks we could have gotten a sleeper and had Gonzo train him. Just can't play what if and assume that the things that happened after an event would play out the same if you change the original event. Like in baseball when a runner gets thrown out and then a player hits a HR. Can't say it woulda been a 2 run homer cause the pitcher probably pitches different, atleast thinks differently.

**007** · 09-05-2012, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave

It would be, but had we kept Gonzales I seriously doubt we sign Boss.

That was my first thought too. But thinking about those three never hurt anyone.

King_Chief_Fan · 09-05-2012, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones

I just wish he would've been more loyal, patient and willing to be part of the solution not the problem. It says a lot about the type of person he is off the field which is a major "me" douche. I love what he did for us but you can't expect every fan favorite to be a Kurt Warner type of person in this business. I get that Tony is a dick, it just sucks because you don't wanna believe it.

he is one and who really cares about him....he has come and gone

JD10367 · 09-05-2012, 07:21 AM

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“The most special part about it is the fans. There’s no doubt about it. That’s what I miss, the fans, the atmosphere. The fan support they gave me and my family, I count that as my family because they’re always there with me when I’m on the field.”

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“Everybody is asking me, ‘What’s it like in there? Is the stadium loud?’ ” Gonzalez said of his Atlanta teammates, who last played at Arrowhead in 2004. “And, I’m like, ‘Oh yeah, it’s going to be crazy, it’s opening day, they’ve got a pretty good football team … wait until you hear the national anthem, and wait until you hear, after every first down, the whole crowd shouting, ‘That’s a Chiefs’ first down!’"

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“That gets tough,” Gonzalez said of his lack of postseason success. “Kansas City deserves better. We were never able to get over that hump. … It’s the only sad part about it that I can think of in my time in Kansas City.”

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He’s owned businesses in Kansas City . . . and he’s active in the community with his foundation, including Shadow Buddies in Kansas City, where smiling dolls are given to ailing children and the elderly.

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“To look back, I can’t believe how naive and unprepared I was,” Gonzalez said. “Football is a great life teacher. Fortunately, I was able to learn from it, and it’s taken me to where we’re at today. I grew up in Kansas City. I became a man in Kansas City. … Unbelievable memories … the teams I was able to play on, the players I was around … being able to play for Lamar Hunt, one of the innovators of the game. It was a cool history to have as a player.”

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“I still love the game, I’m really enjoying it and am able to be effective, so I’m going to enjoy this year,” Gonzalez said. “It kind of makes it more special, too, knowing this is the last time I’ll be at Arrowhead. The last time. That’s a luxury.”

Serious question: why do so many seem to hate him and call him a dick? I know nothing about the man, but he seems to say all the right things and seems to genuinely have enjoyed playing in KC and still supports the city and the fans.

I get that he shot his way out of town but I see his point of view. He was 32, entering his prime, and by the end of the '08 season things looked bleak. From '04 to '08 KC went 7-9, 10-6, 9-7, 4-12, and 2-14. Two seasons of winning 6 total games when you're the best TE in football has to grind you down. Then a sweeping new regime comes in, and it looks like the team will be in rebuilding mode... why NOT see if you can get traded?

htismaqe · 09-05-2012, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JD10367

Serious question: why do so many seem to hate him and call him a dick? I know nothing about the man, but he seems to say all the right things and seems to genuinely have enjoyed playing in KC and still supports the city and the fans.

I get that he shot his way out of town but I see his point of view. He was 32, entering his prime, and by the end of the '08 season things looked bleak. From '04 to '08 KC went 7-9, 10-6, 9-7, 4-12, and 2-14. Two seasons of winning 6 total games when you're the best TE in football has to grind you down. Then a sweeping new regime comes in, and it looks like the team will be in rebuilding mode... why NOT see if you can get traded?

Honestly, I think it all stems from a few incidents at training camp and elsewhere where the guy acted like a primadonna to people in a public, fan-oriented setting. He obviously doesn't like to sign autographs, for one.

Outside of that, I'm not sure anybody really begrudges him for wanting to leave and play for a winner. I know I don't.

Imon Yourside · 09-05-2012, 07:36 AM

I bumped into Tony at Whole Foods and My son asked for his autograph. Tony told him to get lost, which is fine as I told my 7 year old(at the time) he shouldn't have bugged him.

htismaqe · 09-05-2012, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

I bumped into Tony at Whole Foods and My son asked for his autograph. Tony told him to get lost, which is fine as I told my 7 year old(at the time) he shouldn't have bugged him.

There have been reports of Tony acting the same way in places/scenarios that were DESIGNED for fans to get autographs.

**Nzoner** · 09-05-2012, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Honestly, I think it all stems from a few incidents at training camp and elsewhere where the guy acted like a primadonna to people in a public, fan-oriented setting. He obviously doesn't like to sign autographs, for one.

Yeah I experienced that first hand at the Hall Of Fame induction.I'm not an autograph hound by any means I just believe that if a player is at a fan-oriented setting they should have no problem with it.If they're at dinner,a club or whatever I say leave them the hell alone and let them enjoy their time off.

Direckshun · 09-05-2012, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

15 catches, all against Javier Arenas, completing the circle.

HAHA

You know this is going to happen, too.

O.city · 09-05-2012, 08:11 AM

Mainly the Gonzalez stuff is from private settings, where he has been less than stellar to fans.

htismaqe · 09-05-2012, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Mainly the Gonzalez stuff is from private settings, where he has been less than stellar to fans.

No, he's done it in public settings too. At functions that were explicitly for the purpose of meeting with the fans and signing autographs.

WhiteWhale · 09-05-2012, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JD10367

Serious question: why do so many seem to hate him and call him a dick? I know nothing about the man, but he seems to say all the right things and seems to genuinely have enjoyed playing in KC and still supports the city and the fans.

I get that he shot his way out of town but I see his point of view. He was 32, entering his prime, and by the end of the '08 season things looked bleak. From '04 to '08 KC went 7-9, 10-6, 9-7, 4-12, and 2-14. Two seasons of winning 6 total games when you're the best TE in football has to grind you down. Then a sweeping new regime comes in, and it looks like the team will be in rebuilding mode... why NOT see if you can get traded?

He asked to be traded every other season, probably a total of five times, usually when his stats weren't as good as he wanted. Even the year after signing a contract extension, he was bitching about wanting to go elsewhere. He first asked for a trade when we fired Gunther. He didn't want to play for DV cos he didn't think he'd get thrown the ball enough. It took Al Saunders explaining Kellen Winslow and the Coryell offense to him to unbunch his panties. Then he liked DV but pitched a hissy fit whenever he wasn't the focus on offense, usually with a 'they should just trade me if they're not gonna throw it to me more...' thrown in there.

Tony was a great player. He'll go into the hall of fame and nobody can ever take that away from him. I still remember him as much for his perpetual complaining as I do for his excellent play.

In general I don't think his west coast douche mentality meshed well with KC fans. Not like 'blue collar guy' does.

Reerun_KC · 09-05-2012, 09:03 AM

Ah welcome home Mr Playoffs?

Nah, why do we care about him?

09-04-2012, 08:40 PM
Tribal Warfare Man of Culture Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $-2887187	Covitz:Gonzalez looking forward to his homecoming Gonzalez looking forward to his homecoming By RANDY COVITZ The Kansas City Star As Atlanta Falcons tight end Tony Gonzalez watched tape of the Chiefs-Seahawks preseason game, his eyes strayed from the field and scanned the sidelines and stands. He looked for the changes that were made to Arrowhead Stadium. (He’s not a big fan of eliminating the permanent Ring of Honor). He searched for people on the sidelines that he remembered. And he tried recognizing fans. Gonzalez, a future Hall of Famer, couldn’t have asked for a better script to his farewell season in the NFL. He will begin his 16th season in the place where he spent his first 12 years — Arrowhead Stadium — when the Falcons open the regular season Sunday against the Chiefs. “I’ve got to say thank you to the NFL people for scheduling it the first game of the season,” said Gonzalez, whose 174 starts for the Chiefs during 1997-2008 rank second in club history. “The only way it could be more special … is if it was the last game of the season, and there were playoff implications. “The most special part about it is the fans. There’s no doubt about it. That’s what I miss, the fans, the atmosphere. The fan support they gave me and my family, I count that as my family because they’re always there with me when I’m on the field.” Gonzalez, 36, left Kansas City in a trade he requested at the end of the 2008 season because at that stage of his career he didn’t want to endure another rebuilding program with a new administration and coaching staff. This will be his first regular-season game against the Chiefs since the trade for a second-round draft choice who turned out to be cornerback Javier Arenas. “Everybody is asking me, ‘What’s it like in there? Is the stadium loud?’ ” Gonzalez said of his Atlanta teammates, who last played at Arrowhead in 2004. “And, I’m like, ‘Oh yeah, it’s going to be crazy, it’s opening day, they’ve got a pretty good football team … wait until you hear the national anthem, and wait until you hear, after every first down, the whole crowd shouting, ‘That’s a Chiefs’ first down!’ ” When Gonzalez left Kansas City, he already was the most prolific pass receiver in Chiefs history and the NFL’s all-time leader for receptions (916), yards (10,940), touchdown catches (76) and Pro Bowl appearances (10) by a tight end. He famously punctuated his touchdowns by dunking the ball over the crossbar. In his three seasons with the Falcons, he’s become the second-leading receiver of all time with 1,149 receptions, trailing only Jerry Rice, and ranks ninth all-time with 95 touchdowns. He has also added two more Pro Bowls. But the number that stands out to most to Gonzalez is 17. That’s the number of passes he dropped in 1998, his second year with the Chiefs. It proved to be the turning point of his career. He began reading inspirational books, including those written about Vince Lombardi, Michael Jordan and by coaches such as Lou Holtz and Pat Riley. Those books taught Gonzalez about focus and dedication. Already a gym rat from his two-sport career at the University of California, where he also started for the basketball team, Gonzalez sought advice from veterans such as Will Shields, Tony Richardson and Marcus Allen and intensified his practice routine before and after practice, running precise routes by himself and catching passes well before practice and long after everyone left. “That was the year that prompted everything,” Gonzalez said. “Embarrassment motivates you. I figured out how to work. It wasn’t a problem with work ethic. It was a problem with concentrating the right way, preparing the right way, and realizing that’s how you move forward, by making mistakes. That’s what I tell young guys around me, it’s fine to get it wrong. The true pro is the guy who will learn from his mistakes and not them happen over and over again.” Gonzalez caught 76 passes for 849 yards and a still career-best 11 touchdowns in 1999, the first of his 10 straight Pro Bowl seasons with the Chiefs. “Like all of us, and Tony’s no exception, he had to learn how to become a professional,” said Rich Gannon, a Chiefs quarterback during Gonzalez’ first two seasons, “and do the little things it takes to be an elite player at his position. “When you put the ball on the ground, you struggle with your confidence a little bit. But once he turned the corner, he never looked back. There are certain players, in a critical situation, when you get in a huddle, their eyes light up. They want to be in the middle of it, if you got the ball to them, they’d make a big play. Jerry Rice is one of those players. Tony Gonzalez is one of those players.” While Gonzalez has said 2012 will be his final NFL season, he’s left himself just a little wiggle room. He says he’s “95 percent sure” he’ll be retiring. He’s 400 receptions behind Rice for the all-time lead, but said he won’t be around long enough to touch that record. “I feel good physically,” said Gonzalez, who has averaged 78 catches a year in his three seasons with the Falcons. “I could easily play another two years, maybe three years, at a decent level. I know for sure right now, I can play my type of ball. I just don’t want to be one of those guys who is out there still on the field and people are saying, ‘He’s lost a step, or he’s not even close to what he used to be.’ “You’re not going to have to drag me off the field. I want to go out playing my type of football … and that’s at the top. It’s no secret, I want to be one of the best when I’m out there on the field, and I couldn’t take it any other way.” And just as Gonzalez, the Chiefs’ first-round pick in 1997, learned from his elders, he’s passed on tips of the trade to his younger Atlanta teammates that have helped the Falcons go to the playoffs twice in his three seasons, including 13-3 in 2010. Unfortunately, he’s still looking for that elusive first postseason win of his career, having gone 0-3 with the Chiefs. “That gets tough,” Gonzalez said of his lack of postseason success. “Kansas City deserves better. We were never able to get over that hump. … It’s the only sad part about it that I can think of in my time in Kansas City. I hope this year can be different. We’ve got a really good football team in Atlanta. “Winning cures everything. (Quarterback) Matt Ryan is one of the best, and (wide receiver) Roddy White … I got lucky. They traded me to a pretty good team. To be honest, it wasn’t the team (I wanted)… it was one of the teams, but it wasn’t my top choice. I’m glad it worked out the way it did.” Gonzalez, whose off-field interests may be among the most diverse in the NFL, hasn’t given a lot of thought to what he’ll do after he retires. He’s owned businesses in Kansas City; he’s written books on nutrition and for youth based on his experience growing up as a bullied multicultural youngster; he’s appeared on television shows, including Oprah Winfrey’s “Big Give” and “Arliss”; and he’s active in the community with his foundation, including Shadow Buddies in Kansas City, where smiling dolls are given to ailing children and the elderly. “I’m thinking about television,” Gonzalez said of a role as a game or studio analyst. “It would be a great way to stay around the game.” During Gonzalez’ rookie year, tight ends coach Jim Erkenbeck would hand out tests to his players, and besides quizzing them on their assignments, the coach would throw in a trivia or current-events question. One of the questions in 1997 was “Who’s Pete Rozelle?” A 21-year-old Tony Gonzalez was stuck for an answer (Paul Tagliabue was the NFL commissioner then), and he answered: “The governor of Missouri.” Gonzalez can laugh about that now. “To look back, I can’t believe how naive and unprepared I was,” Gonzalez said. “Football is a great life teacher. Fortunately, I was able to learn from it, and it’s taken me to where we’re at today. I grew up in Kansas City. I became a man in Kansas City. … Unbelievable memories … the teams I was able to play on, the players I was around … being able to play for Lamar Hunt, one of the innovators of the game. It was a cool history to have as a player.” Gonzalez’ family will be on hand for Sunday’s game. His mom from California, his wife, oldest son Nikko, folks from the Shadow Buddies and former teammates, including Richardson, Jason Dunn, Shawn Barber and Kevin Lockett will be there as Gonzalez likely will extend his streak to 164 consecutive games with a reception, the longest active streak in the league and fourth all-time. “I still love the game, I’m really enjoying it and am able to be effective, so I’m going to enjoy this year,” Gonzalez said. “It kind of makes it more special, too, knowing this is the last time I’ll be at Arrowhead. The last time. That’s a luxury. “How many guys can say that? How many guys can say this is my last year, and I’m going out on my terms? I feel very lucky.”
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Imon Yourside WhatUneed2Hear Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: AllSoulsMatter Casino cash: $-936819	I bumped into Tony at Whole Foods and My son asked for his autograph. Tony told him to get lost, which is fine as I told my 7 year old(at the time) he shouldn't have bugged him. __________________ "Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour" Peter 5:8 "Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay" Isaiah 29:16 "Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me." Revelation 3:20
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09-05-2012, 09:03 AM	#30
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