limited in practice: Brandon Flowers and Brown.

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Nick Jacobs ‏@Jacobs71

#Chiefs limited in practice: Brandon Flowers and Jalil Brown.



Bills gonna go up and down the field on Reeves, Glad this fail of a GM didn't go add any players this week.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by BlackBob

That's cool man. If you want re-define the definition of football formations go right ahead.

Why would a linebacker want to put his hand in the dirt? Think about it.

Hali puts his hand in the dirt all of the time but that doesn't mean the Chiefs play a 4-3. However, go ahead and call it that if you want to.

[mcaj22]

i cant wait until we sign Wes Welker a month before we let Bowe walk in FA this upcoming offseason

[SAUTO]

I guess if a DB is going to blitz and puts his hand down he would be a lineman.
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[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

i cant wait until we sign Wes Welker a month before we let Bowe walk in FA this upcoming offseason

Ignoring Baldwin, shortest WR corps evar!

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by jspchief

Stanford Routt signed with KC almost 2 months before Carr became a FA. Maybe KC assured him they wouldn't re-sign Carr, but the fact is he joined the team as a 3rd CB.

Routt's contract is also very team friendly if he's released after the first year.

Not saying its what they SHOULD have done. Just saying that its hardly beyond reason to see both Carr and Routt on this team in 2012.

Good point.

[Black Bob]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Link me to that definition
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First, I'm not trying to be a smartass and I am trying to help you guys understand.

It's common knowledge and it's everywhere that gives a decent explanation. I just googled "understanding NFL football 4-3 and 3-4." It's almost always in the first sentence. Here's some...

http://voices.yahoo.com/understandin...16.html?cat=14

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3%E2%80%934_defense

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4%E2%80%933_defense

http://football.calsci.com/DefensiveLine3.html

http://football.about.com/cs/a/43defense.htm

http://football.about.com/cs/a/34defense.htm

Also, yes, if a safety puts his hand on the ground at the line, he is at that point a "down linemen" for the purpose of defining the formation.

The first number is the formation is always "down linemen."

[Black Bob]

Originally Posted by Chiefs=Good

Not sure if serious. But its a leverage thing. Also a backer can drop easily, while a de will take longer due to the stance..

That's exactly right. It's a leverage thing and he is going forward. When he puts his hand on the ground, he's no longer a LBer. He's a DE.

Originally Posted by Frosty

Hali puts his hand in the dirt all of the time but that doesn't mean the Chiefs play a 4-3. However, go ahead and call it that if you want to.

By definition it's a 4-3 when he does that.

Also, what made Hali a LBer in the first place? He was a DE in the 4-3 right? When we switched to the 3-4, Hali stood up. That made him a LBer right? Why do you think it's different for the opposite?

I'm not sure why you guys are so confused...?

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by BlackBob

By definition it's a 4-3 when he does that.

No...

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by jspchief

Stanford Routt signed with KC almost 2 months before Carr became a FA.

Not quite.

Carr signed with Dallas 23 days after the Chiefs signed Routt.

[RustShack]

When you get on the line with your hand on the dirt you are a lineman. Hali was a DE in the 4-3 defense, which is a defensive lineman. He can still be used as a DE even with that shiny new "LB' label next to his name on the roster. Hes still essentially just a DE that stands up now.

[Black Bob]

Originally Posted by RustShack

When you get on the line with your hand on the dirt you are a lineman. Hali was a DE in the 4-3 defense, which is a defensive lineman. He can still be used as a DE even with that shiny new "LB' label next to his name on the roster. Hes still essentially just a DE that stands up now.

Thank you

[Titty Meat]

Carr was already gone when the Chiefs signed Routt. Nick Wright reported he had already talked to another team which I can't believe wasn't investigated. Sure Wright could of been wrong but he's personal friends with Carr. He's stayed the night at his place according to Twitter.

[KCUnited]

Originally Posted by billay

Carr was already gone when the Chiefs signed Routt. Nick Wright reported he had already talked to another team which I can't believe wasn't investigated. Sure Wright could of been wrong but he's personal friends with Carr. He's stayed the night at his place according to Twitter.

Wright talked to Carr the day KC signed Routt and Carr told him that's when he knew that the writing was on the wall. According to Wright of course.

[Ace Gunner]

Originally Posted by Frosty

Hali puts his hand in the dirt all of the time but that doesn't mean the Chiefs play a 4-3. However, go ahead and call it that if you want to.

if it's four down to 3 point, it's four down. The reason is you can get leverage against blockers coming from a lower stance than they are.


Watch Poe do it when he plays RDE. Pretty impressive for such a young player. I didn't like the pick because he had no usable techniques coming to the NFL, but after watching him during exhibition he has that rare explosion very few big men have.

Now I see what Romeo sees with this guy. He's got great balance too. He knows leverage fairly well from what I can tell so far. Once he gets some hand technique, he is going to be very difficult to handle even for double teams.

I thought it may take Poe 3 or 4 seasons to develop. I'm moving that up now -- he should be the best lineman this team has by season's end. He's learning by leaps and bounds right now, it'll take longer for the finer skills such as hand fighting and play recognition, but I would not be surprised to see this kid make the PB next season.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Flowers limited again today?