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Old 09-16-2012, 09:56 PM   #1
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It's pretty amazing.

I admit it ... I was absolutely thrilled when Clark hired Pioli.
What's amazing were the people that were so angry with me (and a few others) that truly disliked the hire of not only Pioli, but Haley as well.

Crazy how it's all come back around.
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Old 09-16-2012, 09:58 PM   #2
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What's amazing were to people that were so angry with me (and a few others) that truly disliked the hire of not only Pioli, but Haley as well.

Crazy how it's all come back around.
Been there and done that with Herman, now reliving it with Crennel. Amazing how history repeats.itself.
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Old 09-16-2012, 10:05 PM   #3
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Been there and done that with Herman, now reliving it with Crennel. Amazing how history repeats.itself.
Ah, no.

The entire forum wasn't on your ass. People didn't make up Photoshopped pictures of "The Four Horseman" and all that nonsense.

You're just a guy that hates black NFL head coaches.

Big difference.
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Old 09-16-2012, 10:08 PM   #4
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Ah, no.

The entire forum wasn't on your ass. People didn't make up Photoshopped pictures of "The Four Horseman" and all that nonsense.

You're just a guy that hates black NFL head coaches.

Big difference.
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Old 09-16-2012, 10:26 PM   #5
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Different coach, same result. I am more convinced than ever that its the players and has always been the players. This team certainly has more talent than the team that Pioli inherited, but we are always dealing with those things that Pioli just will never address. First and foremost, this team lives down to its capabilities of its QB. Next we have a defense where in our base defense against the pass we have 4 guys who are going to have no impact. We are essentially only playing defense with 7 guys. Third, we are so far under the cap and yet we have holes with depth and positions where we have people on the field that really shouldn't be in the NFL. Last year it was RT and depth at safety. This year we brought in a good RT and a bunch of cheap safeties in FA. We didn't look forward to where we might be crumbling.

I think Pioli can be a good GM, but he's got to change some things. He needs an owner that is going to demand that he get out of his Patriot way comfort zone. He needs an owner that is going to read him the riot act when he says that drafting a first round QB is just too risky. He needs an owner that is going to tell him to spend the money.

This whole thread should be titled "Scott Pioli is not going to win with this organization if Clark Hunt is the owner."
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Old 09-16-2012, 10:09 PM   #6
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What's amazing were to people that were so angry with me (and a few others) that truly disliked the hire of not only Pioli, but Haley as well.

Crazy how it's all come back around.
This will, no doubt, bring out the haters en masse ... but, I still like Haley.

I have a lot of reasons, but I generally liked his attitude toward the game. I'm not so sure about the paranoia and the need to make his personal calls from a burn phone, but I think he will have a long and successful career in the NFL.

Frankly, it is my view that Haley was probably the best decision Pioli has made to date. Things would likely have turned out much better for everyone if Pioli had been more supportive and helpful ... as opposed to deceitful ... and under-cutting his own freaking coach.

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Old 09-16-2012, 10:10 PM   #7
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This will, no doubt, bring out the haters en masse ... but, I still like Haley.

I have a lot of reasons, but I generally liked his attitude toward the game. I'm not so sure about the paranoia and the need to make his personal calls from a burn phone, but I think he will have a long and successful career in the NFL.

Frankly, it is my view that Haley was probably the best decision Pioli has made to date. Things would likely have turned out much better for everyone if Pioli had been more supportive and helpful ... as opposed to deceitful ... and under-cutting his own freaking coach.

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Completely agree. I think Pioli drove him to near madness.
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Old 09-16-2012, 10:12 PM   #8
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This will, no doubt, bring out the haters en masse ... but, I still like Haley.

I have a lot of reasons, but I generally liked his attitude toward the game. I'm not so sure about the paranoia and the need to make his personal calls from a burn phone, but I think he will have a long and successful career in the NFL.

Frankly, it is my view that Haley was probably the best decision Pioli has made to date. Things would likely have turned out much better for everyone if Pioli had been more supportive and helpful ... as opposed to deceitful ... and under-cutting his own freaking coach.

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One thing is for certain - Pioli and Haley just were not meant to work of th esame team.
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Old 09-16-2012, 10:14 PM   #9
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Nope. We got that figured out. Those two crazy bastards probably couldn't ride in the same car without causing multiple fatalities.

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Nope. We got that figured out. Those two crazy bastards probably couldn't ride in the same car without causing multiple fatalities.

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I picture Haley pulling sand out of nowhere, throwing it in fat Scott's eyes and going for the elbows....while driving.

Sorry but I liked Todd.
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Nope. We got that figured out. Those two crazy bastards probably couldn't ride in the same car without causing multiple fatalities.

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Haley should have never took the job when the QB was forced on him. I like Haley, but Pioli ****ed up and so did Haley. Should have hired the coach first, then see who the coach likes as a qb, then went from there.
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Haley should have never took the job when the QB was forced on him. I like Haley, but Pioli ****ed up and so did Haley. Should have hired the coach first, then see who the coach likes as a qb, then went from there.
Tough to say from his end. If you always wanted to be a head coach and it was the only offer, hard to turn it down. Being the "hot" OC or whatever you want to say doesn't last forever.
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Tough to say from his end. If you always wanted to be a head coach and it was the only offer, hard to turn it down. Being the "hot" OC or whatever you want to say doesn't last forever.
i get that, but he knows it was wrong now, i dont blame him for it, but that was the first signal that Pioli was in way over his head.
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Haley should have never took the job when the QB was forced on him. I like Haley, but Pioli ****ed up and so did Haley. Should have hired the coach first, then see who the coach likes as a qb, then went from there.
Amen. I still wish Haley could have left a big steaming turd on Pioli's desk as a going away present.
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