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Old 09-19-2012, 01:16 AM   #1
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Regardless of his "potential," we are losing legitimate games because of his current lack of "quality."

24-40, 17-35.

If those results aren't indicative of Pioli's embarrassing lack of attention to the Chiefs secondary, I do not know what is.
The Bills completed 10 passes and I bet we held Ryan to one of the lowest passing totals he will have all year, even though he roasted us.

Those scores are largely because of poorly timed turnovers.

Cassels fumble and first pick (along with the missed fg) knocked us out of the Atlanta game when it was a close contest up until that point.

Cassels fumble and Hillis fumble while going into the endzone killed the buffalo game...NOT secondary depth...we couldn't contain Spiller and we turned the ball over at inopportune times.

Jeez people, let's try to remain at least somewhat objective.

It sucks losing good players, but it happens to every team in football.
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Old 09-19-2012, 01:19 AM   #2
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The Bills completed 10 passes and I bet we held Ryan to one of the lowest passing totals he will have all year, even though he roasted us.

Those scores are largely because of poorly timed turnovers.

Cassels fumble and first pick (along with the missed fg) knocked us out of the Atlanta game when it was a close contest up until that point.

Cassels fumble and Hillis fumble while going into the endzone killed the buffalo game...NOT secondary depth.

Jeez people, let's try to remain at least somewhat objective.

It sucks losing good players, but it happens to every team in football.


To be fair, they didn't need to throw. But as of right now Jalil Brown is not a viable option to come in and start at the cb position, I went to the preseason game against Seattle and he looked absolutely horrible.
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Old 09-19-2012, 01:24 AM   #3
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The Bills completed 10 passes and I bet we held Ryan to one of the lowest passing totals he will have all year, even though he roasted us.
I would argue that this is moreso a result of our half-ply running defense, rather than any considerable achievement of our secondary. I also question the effect the turnovers truly had on the outcome of the game. While Hillis' fumble was a momentum breaker, Buffalo drove down the field more or less uncontested in four of their drives on Sunday.

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It is what it is.
Sigh, I can agree with you there.
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Old 09-19-2012, 07:58 AM   #4
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The Bills completed 10 passes and I bet we held Ryan to one of the lowest passing totals he will have all year, even though he roasted us.

Those scores are largely because of poorly timed turnovers.

Cassels fumble and first pick (along with the missed fg) knocked us out of the Atlanta game when it was a close contest up until that point.

Cassels fumble and Hillis fumble while going into the endzone killed the buffalo game...NOT secondary depth...we couldn't contain Spiller and we turned the ball over at inopportune times.

Jeez people, let's try to remain at least somewhat objective.

It sucks losing good players, but it happens to every team in football.

Surely you are forgetting a couple keys to these beatdowns. Spiller had like 60 yards rushing during the first qtr alone and just knifed through the line at will, so there really was no reason to throw the ball a lot.

Secondly, you know damn well this defensive backfield is more than one step down from what this team had last season -- even with Berry gone. They are undermanned back there, to say the least. I haven't seen that much confusion in this team's secondary since back when Herm was coach.

Third, QB's have all day to throw on the Chiefs, so there's that. It hasn't been this way in years. Tamba makes this defense look respectable when paired with Carr/Flowers. I know this will change some as the season progresses, but I don't think this defense will look as good as the did last year. They had deficits at the safety position, but the other three players did a good job keeping order much of the season.

This looks nothing like the defense we've seen recently and it's not the "new coach". The players are mentally breaking down. They are football stupid, some of them and that is showing up in spades this season because they are so full of themselves, they think they can just freelance this defense and be golden. Heh. Not. Gonna. Work.
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